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[Marxism] RE: Venezuela's Left comes together
Well, seeing as I clearly no as little as Joaquín Bustelo on the
subject of the Venezuelan Left, then my comments are worth about as
much as his, I suppose...
Leaving aside for a second HOW people in Venezuela who consider
themselves socialists and Marxists should organize, with whom,
dissolve into, or whatever (there are tons of choices don't ya' know
*within* the camp that openly describes themselves as "Chavista")...I
wanted to address at least the part of 'delusion' that comrade
Joaquín alludes too.
I don't know a lot about this new party. I know bits and pieces. I
know, for example, that in part, the inspiration for this party comes
from the new PSOL(sp?) party of expelled left wingers from Brazil's
PT (a fraction I do NOT support, BTW). I know the supporters of the
USFI in Venezuela plays an important role and I know that this new
party, far from being a small sect, includes the top leadership of
one of the most single important institutions of the Venezuelan
Revolution: the UNT. This includes the "Classista" grouping that
makes up a majority of the pro-Revolutionary leadership in the UNT
(yes, the UNT includes some of the CTV unions that saw which way the
wind was blowing and bolted the CTV without necessarily jettisoning
the CTV outlook).
Joaquín considers this new part simply another Trotskyoid attempt at
a sectarian adventure. I would expect this from Joaquín. However,
people should not take Joaquín's rhetorical attack on this party as
anything more than the mirror image of the sectarian Trotskyism he
likes to attack so much. For example, Joaquín writes the following:
"Calling on "the Venezuelan working class to take state power" is
just an
algebraic and abstract way --a shamefaced way-- of saying "Down with
Chavez!"
My, my, Joaquín, aren't we defensive. You don't really have a clue do
you? Again, I'm writing this from second hand reports (which,
probably, is better than Joaquín's 3rd hand report, but who cares?)
but why do you draw such a conclusion? Is that because you believe
that the working class has taken state power? Carried through "The
Revolution" and eliminated the capitalist state? Or this still a
task, no matter how far off, still on the agenda? Chavez certainly
thinks that the revolution is not yet completed, that socialism has
yet to be built. How do you know that this group isn't just raising
the call for a faster evolution toward workers power in the same way,
for example, that the marxist.com folks of Alan Woods is doing, which
is completely inside the Chavista movement (and has the confidence of
Chavez) but represents a current within it?
There are *many* groups that call themselves "Chavista" in Venezuela.
Perhaps Michael Liebowitz can run down the list and give some
background on them. Some, like Chavez's 5th Republic Movement have
some of the same corruption problems that were endemic to AD before
the revolution. There is no unified Chavista organization and it
could be, and I don' know, that this new group does in fact see
itself as part of this wider movement. Certainly that many of the top
UNTers are IN this new party, all of who are pro-revolutionary (which
is WHY they built the UNT in the first place) should clearly indicate
which side of the barricades they are on.
Trotskyism, while never organizationally strong in Venezuela, clearly
has had a long influence, especially among oil workers and other
parts of the working class there, and this ideology permeates the
UNT, at least at the leadership level. There was a small section of
the Chavista fraction inside the old Constituent Assembly who were
openly Trotskyist, elected as part of the oil workers section of the
Chavista slate, for example. So it doesn't surprise me that such
currents, with positions all over the map with regards to Chavez have
specific issues that require them to organize, at least somewhat,
independently of the "official" Chavista movement.
There are issues inside the UNT and among the ranks that reflect
what's going on inside the Chavista movement on the outside of the
UNT. There are definite wings of the UNT and the Revolution that are
debating, obviously much to Joaquín annoyance, HOW the Revolution
should proceed, on the role of the UNT, etc. Obviously, and
thankfully, there is no great political homogeneity that Joaquín
would like to project onto the Revolution. There are dozens and even
hundreds of different organizations debating many issues, including
"socialism".
The UNT itself reflects the divisions among Venezuelan workers. There
is the Bolivarian Workers Front, probably the most "pro-
Chavista"section of the UNT. There is the Classista current and
currents from the older CTV I mentioned above. Within the BWF there
are varying viewpoints on HOW the UNT and WHO the UNT should
represent, and how *independent* of Chavez the UNT ought to be and
here the debate is deep and furious. I think this is a GOOD THING. I
think in a small way, this new party, again something I know little
of except the pedigree of some of the leadership, is probably just a
reflection of the wonderful heterogeneity of the Venezuelan Revolution.
David Walters
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