It becoming He and the Holy Family (was RE: [Marxism] Far-left groups swing wrecking ball against unitedactionon Sept. 24

["Carlos A. Rivera" <cerejota@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

 -----Original Message-----
 From: Fred Feldman
>
>
> Carlos quotes me:
>
> > On this list, Carlos Rivera labelled a Jewish anti-Zionist
> > who tended to support the UFPJ action a "zionist."
>
>
> And then he states:
> Which objectively it is. Anything that supports, as a
> political demand,
> the
> continued existence of the Zionist Entity is objectively Zionism, as
> Zionism
> is broadly defined.
>
> How did Louis Proyect, a "he," become an "it."

Has been my point all along. While Louis has taken great pains and exception
to attack me ad hominem, I have been questioning the ideas, not the person.
I don't know Louis, I know the ideas he expouses, and I know how to separate
the two.

> How did Louis
> Proyect, an
> individual, become "anything."  How did Louis Proyect the
> anti-Zioniost
> become someone "who supports, as a political demand, the
> continued existence of the Zionist Entity."

In exactly the same manner that Louis argues that raising the "right of
return", I quote Louis on this, "is objectively pro-imperialist".

Someone in agreement with this line went as far as to quote (incorrectly)
"Holy Family" in support of this view. It is a view I completely and
absolutely disagree with.

You can subjectively be anything you want, and objectively be the complete
opposite (that is the correct "Holy Family" view). The difference between
the lines is that we don't agree on the objective character of the positions
(to use the "Holy Family" in this context is incorrect)

And I am explaning this in a Marxist list to a long time Marxist?

No wonder I always get into trouble with former SWP types!

sks




_______________________________________________
Marxism mailing list
Marxism@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/listinfo/marxism