Re: [Marxism] Re: Pearl Harbor, etc.--reply

["Carlos A. Rivera" <cerejota@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Shannon" <Brian_Shannon@xxxxxxxxxxx>

> > > > > > > You are correct in saying that technically this is not a conspiracy.
However, my rhetorical point is that the American people believes that
this is a democracy and that in the political sphere, at least, we
freely and fairly choose our leaders. The conspiracy is that the ruling
class and the media of today and the past hide the real condition of
our political life. It is hidden in full view. Of course, my rhetoric
was designed to show that the known machinations of the capitalist
system are what we should be concerned with, rather than hidden
conspiracies.<<<<<<

You are confusing the alienating nature of social relationships within
capitalism with an active conspiracy.

Conspiracy is a method of doing politics, not a world-system. One of the key
breaks between the original National Bolsheviks with marxism was over this
very question.

The point all of us doing conspiracy bashing is precisely that conspiracy
theories contribute to "hid[ing] the real condition of
our political life". They are a possible "how", while marxism cares more
about the "why" and politics care more about the "what". The "how", well,
the how has no ideology or social base: The Vast Right Wing Conspiracy faces
the Jew-Bolshevik Groundless Cosmopolitan Conspiracy.

sks


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