Re: [Marxism] A clarification on Peronism, Zionism and Socialism

["Nestor Gorojovsky" <nestorgoro@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Respuesta a:"Re: [Marxism] A clarification on Peronism, Zionis"
Enviado por:rrubinelli
Con fecha:8 Apr 2005, a las 9:57

> Thanks for the references.  I've read all of those, and more, and even
> better, Connolly's works on Ireland.  I'm very clear on what they
> meant, and where I agree and disagree.
> 
> But the question is what do you mean by national revolutions in the
> third world?  National and revolution being oxymoronic, in my opinion,
> in this era.  National being associated with a quite specific form of
> property, class, organization which is more than obsolete.

Third World nationalism is a programmatic revolutionary patriotism.  
Of course, we live in the age of imperialism, and capitalism has 
demonstrated that it is more than obsolete, etc.  But the fact is, 
that the way in which capitalism has developed has turned the global 
economy into a fractured whole, where global capitalist domination 
closes the way to those countries that try to reach not just 
socialism but, simply, the modest results of good ole self-centered 
capitalism.  The struggle for "national revolution" in a semicolonial 
country is thus inextrincably and simultaneously _national and 
social_, and in the development of the struggle "the theory predicts" 
that it is only those members of the national front that will not 
stop in front of the gates of Private Property who will take the 
struggle to victory.  If the masses can realize this, then they will 
support them. If the masses don't realize this, well, it is a matter 
of time: either the country will be scratched off the surface of the 
Globe, or the masses will in the end take a socialist path.

Under this general (and hastily written) conception, it is my opinion 
that both paragraphs by you above contradict each other.

If you have passed through all that reading, and Connolly too, and 
you still don't understand how is it that Fidel Castro is a national 
leader _and_ a socialist (and is a socialist because a national 
leader, and a national leader because he is a socialist) you can't 
understand Ho Chih Minh's idea that "this nation and socialism are 
one and the single thing".

If you can't grasp that, it won't be a busy man here in the South, 
with a couple of postings on Marxmail, who will give you the clue.

Néstor Miguel Gorojovsky
nestorgoro@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

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"Sí, una sola debe ser la patria de los sudamericanos".
Simón Bolívar al gobierno secesionista y disgregador de 
Buenos Aires, 1822
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