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Re: [Marxism] Greens, Dems and Building Working Class Independence,
- To: Activists and scholars in Marxist tradition <marxism@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: Re: [Marxism] Greens, Dems and Building Working Class Independence,
- From: Louis Proyect <lnp3@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 19:50:15 -0500
Carlos wrote:
The SP-USA is an organization that has gone throught many changes,
leaderships, and position in its history. At one point it was the only
viable third party, and gained mayoral and local offices well into the
70s, where in effect they met your ludicrous criteria of "actually elected
people to office who then go about making a difference in real people's lives".
30 years is a long time in politics. In the 1970s the SWP had nearly 2000
members. I am not opposed to the SP-USA (although the SWP is a different
matter.) The ruling class in the USA mobilized to suppress a Nader bid in
2004. It mostly ignored all other campaigns on the left, including the
SP's. That should tell you something. I am not at all hostile to the
SP-USA. I advocated a vote for McReynolds in 2000, but decided to go with
Nader after attending a standing-room rally for him at the Felt Forum. Not
to sound like a crude dialectical materialist, but at a certain point
quantity turns into quality.
Louis Proyect
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- RE: [Marxism] Greens, Dems and Building Working Class Independence,, (continued)
- RE: [Marxism] Greens, Dems and Building Working Class Independence,,
Mark Lause Sat 26 Mar 2005, 19:02 GMT
- [Marxism] Greens, Dems and Building Working Class Independence,,
David Walters Sat 26 Mar 2005, 23:27 GMT
- Re: [Marxism] Greens, Dems and Building Working Class Independence,,
Louis Proyect Sun 27 Mar 2005, 00:02 GMT
- Re: [Marxism] Greens, Dems and Building Working Class Independence,,
Carlos A. Rivera Sun 27 Mar 2005, 00:23 GMT
- RE: [Marxism] Greens, Dems and Building Working Class Independence,,
Mark Lause Sun 27 Mar 2005, 00:40 GMT
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