Re: [Marxism] Greens, Dems and Building Working Class Independence,

[Louis Proyect <lnp3@xxxxxxxxx>]

> It has nothing to do with Nader and the Green Party being as bankrupt as
> the Labor Party ever was?

What do you mean by bankrupt? That is an overused word in radical politics,
I'm afraid. Nader's 2000 campaign was a big breakthrough for the left. A
capacity crowd at the Felt Forum in NYC heard Nader deliver a sharp attack
on war, corporate greed and the 2-party system. No, he did not address the
question of how surplus value is generated, nor did he call for worker's
councils. But let's have a division of labor on these things. Sects like
the SWP, the Sparts and WSWS can cover the surplus value/worker's council
base while Nader and Camejo can cover the war and living wage base.

> Damn Louis, as much as you try to shake out of it, you are still very much
> a Party man...

Of course, I am pro-party. I am just opposed to ludicrous pretenses by
small groups that they are the nucleus of a revolutionary party.

> In my opinion the great problem of the Green Party is the total lack of
> any kind of cohesion at a national level. Yeah, Cobb might have stolen the
> primary, but it shows just the kind of opportunist narcisist Nader is that
> he didn't accept the result, and then vigorously campaing for Cobb, in
> spite of himself, as a way to strengthen the Green Party. Instead, Nader
> accepted with open hands the support of Republicans out to turn Nader into
> a spoiler.

How can one vigorously campaign for Cobb? That is like trying to use a
sunflower to beat down a door.

> And I am specially mesmerized at how can a socialist preffer the Green
> Party over the SPUSA!!!

Because the Green Party has actually elected people to office who then go
about making a difference in real people's lives.


Louis Proyect
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