Re: [Marxism] Buying off the German people

[davidquarter@xxxxxxxxxxxx]

 Fundamentally, it was underestimation of Hilter's power by the communists and
social democrats that allowed him to squeek into office. Once that happened, the
dynamics of the situations change completely. It's one thing to have arms and 
the
numbers in place needed to the forge an effective resistance, it's completely
another thing to have the gaul to do this against such a formidable opponent: 
the
state.

Infighting plagued the social democrats and communist during Hitler ascension's 
to
power. Consequently, there was probably no plans drawn up in the event that he 
got
elected, nor do I imagine anyone truly foresaw the real danger he would pose. 
And
the rest as they say is history.

 I don't see how anyone can make a fare assessment of Hitler;'s popularity 
after his
victory (for obvious reasons), or at least if Germans are to be held 
collectively
responsible for not standing up to Hitler's hoardes under the Nazis Germany, 
what
type of indictment is this of American workers under Democratic  U.S of A?

DOQ


On 25 Mar 2005 at 11:30, Carlos A. Rivera wrote:

>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Johannes Schneider" <Johannes.Schneider@xxxxxxx>
>
> >  From the beginning to the end fascism meant "cannons instead  of butter"
> > for the German working class.
>
> If this is true, do you care to explain how a nation that had at the same
> time the largest Communist Party and the largest Social-Democratic Party
> (back when that meant a true workers party), both of which had sizeable
> armed structures, didn't survive even underground, save for a few places, to
> oppose Hitler?
>
> As a matter of fact, I have always taken this as a truism, that the
> monstrousity of the III Reich was the platform of prosperity to the average
> German. The Volkswagen, the AutoBahn, the free resorts in the Alps, the high
> wages, the low taxes, even animal rights laws! But all built upon the
> slavery of the non-German. This revisionist me-tooism hides the fact that
> the bulk of the Germans, except for example the Hoeneckers you so much
> wanted to hang high from the Bunderstag, supported Hitler and National
> Socialism, and benefited from it until the pain of war came home.
>
> So don't even try that.

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