Re: [Marxism] Re: msnbc on anti-war protests...

["Carlos A. Rivera" <cerejota@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

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From: "M. Junaid Alam" <mjunaidalam@xxxxxxxxxx>

> The rest of Carlos' post - actually the majority of it - is just colorful,
> strangely twilight-esque hyperbole about jackboots and martyrdom and
> Purple Hearts, so...I'll just leave that be.

At least it beat in form, if not in content, your ever increasing hateful
denounciation of the same people that *must* become the revolution.

In essence, your point boils down to saying white working class people in
the USA are impossible to organize, they don't care and never will.

And that is exactly the kind of stupidity that has us mired in the cesspool
we are.

Yes, people are not going awol in great numbers (the right-wing goes great
pains to explain this), yes people have not voted in large percentages for a
long time, yes to all the points you raise on this regards. Yet, even those
things you seek (with the reactionaries) to minimize, are a *reality* that
to anyone with two fingers of foreheads tells you of a society in crisis.
And we do nothing about it but self-justify our failure to turn crisis into
something else.

Furthermore, while I did focus most of my arguement on the USA, because
after all it is were I live and were I am, I did mention this was a
world-wide crisis. Except for places were their are ongoing revolutions or
were there are more urgent tasks than to protest war, M-19 has been a
defeat.

Will you explain failure to mobilize even a fraction of the previous
numbers in say, the UK, or in Italy or in Spain, as the fault of Pabst Blue
Ribbon-drinkin', tater tot-eatin', shotgun-wieldin', pickup-drivin',
magnetic yellow ribbon white trash?

That is the glaring error of your anti-working class position. The working
class in, say, the Phillipines is no more or less revolutionary than the
working class in the USA. Yet there is a revolution going on there, whatever
the opinion you have of it.

The difference, it would seems, lies squarely in a subjective failure of
leadership.

sks



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