Re: [Marxism] Re: Rather's facts on Bush were true,documents not provenforgeries

["Carlos A. Rivera" <cerejota@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

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From: "Fred Feldman" <ffeldman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>



> Carlos! How in heaven's name do you know that he inhaled?  Has any one
> who was there ever said that he did?

It don't take a rocket surgeon to know that no one takes a bong to their
mouth and doesn't inhale...

I mean, it sounds like what parents tell children when they ask them if they
smoked marijuana themselves. And in the same manner I don't believe my
parents, I don't believe Slicky Willy.

> To get Clinton to admit he had had sex, the Starr inquisitors had to
> come up with a definition of having sex which embraces a quite gigantic
> scope of human contact.

And for him to deny having had sex he had to come up with a definition of
sex that would effectively mean that gays and lesbians don't have sex. An
equally right-wing proposition.

> For heterosexual youth, at least but not exclusively, everything but
> "having sex is "making out" or whatever the term is today.

Harm reduction social workers would disagree that defining oral sex as sex
is a rigth-wing conspiracy.

They will tell you *not* defining it as sex is one of the major sexual
health problems in the USA.

A huge percentage of STDs get transmited by what you call "making out".

> The acceptance of these as the famous "Clinton lies," and Whitewater as
> a high point of government corruption (well, at least that coverup was
> partly defeated), was part of the reactionary role of the right-wing
> Starr witch-hunt.

Bah-humbug.

Clinton was as much a criminal as Bush has ever been.

Sure, he didn't invade to countries, but he legalized federal death penalty,
presided over the mass slaugther of defenseless citizens in Waco,
dismanteled social welfare, etc. It was funny to see him actually feeling
some of the pain, instead of profesing to feel it.

sks


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