Re: [Marxism] Working class

[Joonas Laine <jjonas@xxxxxx>]

>> 4. Do wagelaborers outside of the sphere of material production create
>> value ?
>
> That's a controversial issue, I would say yes, but depending on the social
> relations and economic relations involved. Material production is an elusive
> concept. But if the work consists purely of a transfer of ownership title to
> products, it makes no net new addition to the value of social product
> thereby. The "productiveness" of much seemingly ""unproductive" work
> consists in reducing costs for somebody else. Marx seems to argue that a
> service is the useful effect of a use-value, the production and consumption
> of which coincide. But Marx's understanding of services was limited because
> in his time he experienced only a limited range of services, e.g. lawyers,
> doctors, accountants, personal servants and the like. The concept of service
> requires a much more profound dialectical analysis.

Jurriaan, I wonder if you could you introduce in a few words (some of)
the main "schools" concerning this matter, or sides in this controversy,
i.e. how narrow or broad views there are for what should be considered
as productive labour?

So far personally I have read only Shaikh and Tonak's views in any
lenght, and to me it seems they're maybe at the more inclusive end
of the spectrum..?

I ask because, at least as to myself, a brief sketch of what is out
there on the field would perhaps help focusing on the salient points
in the controversy when I read further into it.

--
jjonas @ nic.fi


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