Re: [Marxism] It's the 60th anniversary of the bombing of Dresden

["rrubinelli" <rrubinelli@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I disagree with all your assertions.  First and foremost, revolutions
are not at all about payback.  It is always the fear and propaganda of
the rulers that revolutions will lead to bloodbaths and indiscriminate
acts of revenge.  And historically that has not been the case.   Not in
France, Russia, Algeria, Vietnam, etc. Indeed, the restraint of the
oppressed is always greater than that of the oppressor who have no
compunctions about destroying anything and everything to preserve their
property.

Those of us around at the time might remember the village of Ben Tre
.."It became necessary to destroy the village in order to save it....."

Capitalist war, counterrevolution,  incorporates (exactly!) pathology
into its every act as it involves a denial and destruction of reality,
of historical necessity, which is its own abolition in order for human
beings in order to survive.  But I would rather avoid analogies to
psych(path)ology.

WWII, not when all is said and done, but at beginning an end, was made
possible, and necessary, by the defeat of the working class revolutions
after WWI.  It had absolutely nothing to do with imposing modernity over
neo-feudality.  Try overproduction if you want a key to analyzing the
roots of the conflict.

Nobody is moralizing or claiming any moral superiority.  On the
contrary, the analysis of Dresen should put the truth to the moral
smugness off the Allies re atrocities, Blitzes, civilian deaths,
blahblahblah

The only good fascist is a dead one?  The targets in Dresden were not
fascists or fascism, which are class structures, but the general
population.  The "good is dead" formulation is used by oppressors
everywhere to justify indiscriminate slaughter..  remember  "The only
good Indian is the dead Indian"?  Or how about this, from a more recent
era  "Kill 'em all, let God sort 'em out."?

Good fascists, bad fascists?  That had absolutely nothing to do with
Dresden or any other action in that conflict, as the bourgeoisie proved
day in and day out before, during, and after the war, welcoming, trading
with, conducting business with, absorbing,  good and bad fascists into
its ruling structure.


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