RE: [Marxism] Is this an accurate quote of Heidegger ?

["Fred Feldman" <ffeldman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Personally, I doubt it. For Heidegger, this is an impermissibly simple
sentence.  Also no explanation of what HEIDEGGER was referring to when
he refers to "any other way of visiting some penalty befitting their
participation". "Any other way" than what? "Participation" in what?

And "Trotskys"? Was Heidegger so absorbed in early Greek philosophy and
"being" at its most abstract and nonmaterial that he didn't know that
the German Communists in the Reichstag were violently anti=Trotsky and
that he had been exiled from the Soviet Union and was sometime around
then (1933) declaring the German Communist Party finished? Maybe, but
probably not.

That Churchill has read and probably been influenced by Heidgger
Heidegger I have no doubt. But still the quote sounds like a
Churchill-baiting and Heidegger-baiting scam. I call it baiting in
Heidegger's case, because I am not convinced that a reference to his
support for Naziism is sufficient to judge Heidegger as a bourgeois
philosopher, even though I don't think much of him.
Anymore than I think support for fascism condemns Celine as a writer,
Dali as a painter, Pound as a poet, etc.

I admit that as a moral figure, Heidegger comes in way under Max
Schmelling/


Actually I think Heidegger's teacher Husserl, whom he betrayed in a
failed effort to become part of the New Order, had more useful
observations about the real world than Heidegger, though Sartre, whom I
respect, respected Heidegger.

And to me, the most useful bourgeois philosopher of the twentieth
century, without any serious competition, is Wittgenstien.  I love,
"Words are deeds."
Fred Feldman

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Subject: [Marxism] Is this an accurate quote of Heidegger ?


>From an email list in a galaxy far away...


>X writes:
>"Churchill's full sentence is:
>
>"If there was a better, more effective, or in fact any other way of
>visiting some penalty befitting their participation upon the
little>Eichmanns inhabiting the sterile sanctuary of the twin towers,
little>I'd
>really be interested in hearing about it. "

Not very original.  Nearly 72 years ago Martin Heidegger wrote:

"If there was a better, more effective, or in fact any other way of
visiting some penalty befitting their participation upon the little
Trotskys hiding in the degenerate democratic sanctuary of the Reichstag,
I'd really be interested in hearing about it."



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