Re: [Marxism] Michael Moore decline continues

["Carlos A. Rivera" <cerejota@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

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From: "Mark Lause" <MLause@xxxxxxxxxxxx>

> That said, as I argued at the time, working people are entitled not be
> slaughtered in their workplaces...not by their bosses...not by
> terrorists who say they're doing it because they hate those bosses (but
> who are also, in this case, in business with those same bosses).   I
> don't see a contraction between my opposing the murder of working people
> in Baghdad and those in NYC.
>
> Conversely, the villains in all this have earned lots of asskicking on
> all sides....

And isn't revolution in the end supposed to be this huge kick in the ass of
the oppresors?

I mean, some of the critique is clearly based upon a pacifist aversion to
violence, of the "kick in the ass macho mentality".  But hey, who ever your
Daddy-O is, they all kicked ass, Luxembourg, Lenin, Trotsky, Stalin, Mao,
Che, Fidel, Chavez etc et al.

Osama bin Laden was our enemy in 1980 and he is our enemy today. I am a
revolutionary double defeatist in this one. And MM is closer to that view as
a liberal, than apparently many "marxists" on this list.

A revolutionary program in the USA today requires we address the fact that
AL Qaeda murdered 3,000 workers. Period. I of course disagree with Moore's
naive "special forces" arguement, but only in form, not content. We need to
gulag Osama yesterday, preferably in the same cell with Dubya.

sks


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