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[Marxism] Re: A query.
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> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 07 Dec 2004 14:46:39 -0500
> From: Louis Proyect <lnp3@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [Marxism] A query
Nestor:
> >Just curious.
> >
> >What do all those groups of the Left who hailed the fall of Milosevic
> >say now on the "velvet revolutions" in Ukraine, Georgia, etc.
Louis:
> Well, here's the problem. There is no exact analogy between the two.
> Milosevic was hostile to privatization, but both sides in the Ukraine
favor
> it. The division is not over this, but over ancillary questions. As I
> posted here a while back, the CP in the Ukraine is in an alliance with a
> wing of the bourgeoisie that found itself in control of mining, heavy
> industry, etc--mostly centered in the East apparently. The Soros and
> CIA-backed bourgeoisie and middle-class of the West are not fighting to
> hasten the pace of privatization, but to wrest political control from
their
> adversaries. It is about control of the estate rather than economic
> questions, as far as I can tell.
I believe here economic and political issues merge in some kind of a
totality. The ethnic Russian neo-bourgeois elites from Eastern Ukraine seem
to stand for somekind of an "All-Russian" recovery of the old USSR along
nationalist-bourgeois lines - something akin to the various Latin American
populist régimes of the 1930s, 1940s and 1950s - while the Ukrainian-proper
élites from Western Ukraine, sharing the same class outlook , seem to favour
passive integration as a compradore bourgeoisie on the periphery of the
imperialist core -something akin to today's Chile and its enclave economy.
It is as Ukrainian nationalism had made, in a way, the same fateful choice
that Engels wrote Scot nationalism to have made in the middle of the
XVIIIth. century , and that led to its crushing defeat at Culloden: to stand
by the most reactionary side avaliable (that of my namesake, the Jacobite
pretender) and therefore domming itself as a political force in the
medium/long range. But then, this is only an speculation...
Carlos Eduardo Rebello
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