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Re: [Marxism] SWP abstention from the antiwar movement
- To: Activists and scholars in Marxist tradition <marxism@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: Re: [Marxism] SWP abstention from the antiwar movement
- From: Bill Hutton <wsh291@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 15:59:48 -0500
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Steve Gabosch wrote:
I think the key to unlocking this puzzle is to ask what is different
in 2004 from say 1969. Perhaps this is one of the tricks time plays
on those of us in our 50's or older. I'm 53; decades just don't seem
so long anymore. But a lot really is different 35 years later,
perhaps more different than we realize. For one, the opportunity to
do successful political work around major issues such as the U.S. war
in Iraq directly in and among the industrial working classes
throughout the imperialist (and semi-colonial world) is new and
different since the '50's, '60's and 70's. This is not at all a small
difference, not by a long shot. For another, there is no North Iraq
workers state in a civil war with its southern part or at war with the
U.S. - nor is there now, nor has there been, an NLF-type nationalist
leadership in Iraq of any kind whatsoever for over two generations.
The mass action-oriented out now movement in the late 1960's and early
'70's of course made a big difference, but it was the Vietnamese
people's ability to decisively defeat the U.S. military presence that
changed world history. The Iraqi toilers today face a very different
set of circumstances on most levels. And to mention a third major
difference, the post-WWII boom, which played a role both in fueling
the simultaneous worldwide anti-colonialist struggles - and the
ability of imperialism to adapt to them - has long ended. This in
turn is creating a very different kind of world situation today. In
my opinion, mass antiwar demonstrations are not the only tactic a
revolutionary working class movement should consider in regard to the
U.S. war in Iraq, especially given that many very important things are
new and different today than what may seem like not so long ago.
In solidarity,
- Steve
Steve, you are making excuses for the SWP not participating in the
antiwar movement. A lot is different 35 years later but a lot is still
the same. The worker's organizations, the unions (there is still no
mass worker's political party), are either for the war or not interested
in mobilizing against the war. So the only option we have available is
mass antiwar demonstrations built by broad multi-class coalitions.
These demonstrations help mobilize public opinion, including working
class public opinion, against the war.
I could get some of my co-workers to participate in an antiwar
demonstration. I may even be able to get my local to endorse a
demonstration. But my union which has been focusing its efforts
politically on the Kerry campaign and building ties with the local
democratic party machine is not going to be taking the lead in building
an antiwar movement. That is going to have to be done outside of the
worker's organization, not out of choice but out of necessity. To
counter pose educating industrial workers about imperialism to building
mass antiwar demonstrations is to counterpose doing nothing to doing
something.
Also, I don't see what the quality of the leadership in Iraq has to do
with the duty we have to oppose the war in whatever way we can. The
decades long heroic revolutionary struggle of the Vietnamese Communist
Party was an inspiration to millions around the world. It greatly
facilitated our efforts to end the war. But it did not determine our
duty to build an antiwar movement.
The SWP's sectarian abstention from the antiwar movement is a
disappointment for someone who spent so long in the organization.
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