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RE: [Marxism] Camejo and Shawki/ISO and so it goes...
- To: "'Activists and scholars in Marxist tradition'" <marxism@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: RE: [Marxism] Camejo and Shawki/ISO and so it goes...
- From: Joaquín <jbustelo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2004 21:50:34 -0500
- Thread-index: AcS/gQbcdGLHn5kcRASHOsqixXVsOAAOJfGw
Octob1917 writes, "No white Left group enjoys any credibility in any black
community, not one. Surely it is prudent to ask why?"
1) The use of the term "white left" is arrogant and chauvinist. This is a
statement that says that Blacks, Latinos and other people from oppressed
communities play no role in the organizations that they belong to.
2) No Black left group enjoys any credibility in any Black community; no
Chicano left group... ; no Puerto Rican left group ... All these statements
could have been made (provided Octob1917 had any real knowledge of
conditions in the U.S. on the ground, which s/he quite evidently does not).
"Perhaps it is prudent to ask" why someone claiming to be a leftist is so
blind to the fact that the U.S. imperialist ruling class has political and
ideological hegemony in the United States, and the fact that this hegemony
is much stronger in this country than elsewhere. An inquiry into the subject
would undoubtedly stumble across the role the United States plays in the
world imperialist system. Which leads directly to the next point.
3) "By concentrating on international issues, the US Left have ipso facto
abandoned the struggle at home." This is imperialist economism. The struggle
abroad IS the struggle at home. Latinos make up something like 7% of the
U.S. citizen population but about 15% of the front-line troops in Iraq.
4) "Until this changes I'm convinced that in this country bourgeois
campaigns for reformists electoral candidates like Ralph Nader will continue
to masquerade as revolutionary work." This is empty phrasemongering, much
like the counterposition of "international issues" to "the struggle at
home."
Joaquín
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