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[Marxism] Re: Marxism Digest, Vol 12, Issue 75
A vote for either of the bourgeois candidates/parties is indeed a vote for
war, whether or not imperialist POLICY (war) will ever be subject to
popular vote, that is, whether or not it is a vote ON the war. It is a vote
FOR war because imperialist war is an intrinsic part of the program of the
U.S. ruling class as a whole, which is served by the two parties. Voting
for these parties means voting for their policies, like it or not,
and that is exactly how the candidates will use the mandate.
It is a vote ON war, because At 01:56 PM 10/30/2004, you wrote:
The idea that a vote for either of the imperialist candidates is a vote
for war -- and I do mean EITHER -- is a complete misunderstanding of the
way bourgeois politics operates in this country and of the basic
characteristics of imperialist democracy..It is electoralism, not class
struggle politics. It is moralism, not Marxism.
I know for a fact that there are a significant layer of Bush voters who
could be won to vote against the war if they had a chance to do so (As
in Let the People Vote onWar). Millions of voters for the two parties
are caught in the two-party trap set by imperialist democracy. They are
not responsible for the war. To say the opposite is both wrong
scientifically, and a bad way to approach building the antiwar movement
that will be urgently needed whoever wins.
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