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[Marxism] Apology to Junaid Alam (and correction) Re: "Unions" & "Workers" are not the same
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- Subject: [Marxism] Apology to Junaid Alam (and correction) Re: "Unions" & "Workers" are not the same
- From: Carrol Cox <cbcox@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:56:10 -0500
"M. Junaid Alam" wrote:
>
> What the heck was this?
>
> I didn't write any of it, and "no" hardly qualifies as much of a response,
> anyway...
>
>
My error.
John Saxe wrote it. I fucked up my editing. He quoted you, but the part
I was replying to was his, not yours. From my post, with correction
noted]:
Josh Saxe wrote:
>
> Junaid wrote: [THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN DELETED - cbc]
>
> I'd appreciate it if you'd rework this, it would make an [clip]
I think a simple "No" is a reasonable reply to John Saxe's post. His
question (a) posited a single entity, "The left," which did not exist in
the 1970s, and in fact does not exist now, and (b) was simply silly,
there being no one answer to it. Leftists and organizations which I knew
and/or worked with in the '70s were focused on "the working class,"
though clearly then as now there were sharp disagreements over who or
what constituted the working class. Finally, "Abandon the working class"
is a ridiculous phrase (and hardly the focus of any possible
"interesting conversation"), since it implies both a unified left _and_
a narrow conception of "the working class." No interesting or useful
conversation can emerge from such.
Carrol
P.S.: If John is thinking of the Weatherman tendency in SDS, the
question is still ridiculous, since their numbers were so small. Lenin
once observed that anarchism (ultra-leftism) is the price the working
class pays for its sins of opportunism. The Weathermen were an obvious
illustration of that.
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