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[Marxism] Re Camejo to speak at CCNY
Steve Grabosch writes:
>And certainly, this document's [Avocado Statement] criticism of the
Democratic Party
as a party of big business is a traditional socialist point of view. But
these positions are also traditional views of left-liberalism in the US.<
Say What? A traditional view of left-liberalism in the U.S. is criticism of
the Democratic party as a party of big business? Perhaps you wrote this
sentence in haste and didn't mean for it to read this way.(??) The reason
Nader-Camejo is a significant 3rd party effort is exactly because it makes this
crtitque
of the Democratisc Party. In my experience, whether in the workplace, the
community, my union, in the anitwar movement, and even within my own extended
family of left-liberal Democratic Party activists, it's always been and still
is
blasphemy to call the Democratic Party by its correct name. Whatever the
limitations of the Nader campaign (i.e. a tendency on Nader's part to curry
favor
with the Reform Party, libertarians and disaffected Republicans) it has stayed
strong, and in fact, gotten stronger since Camejo was added, on the class
nature of the Democratic Party. The campaign has been open and honest about
not
being socialist-- at Harvard during the DNC, Nader responded to a Spart
question
on this by stating he's not a socialist because he doesn't think the American
people are "responsible enough for socialism" (yes, ugh!!). The campaign's
attack on the Democratic Party has been relentless, and resonates with the
perceptions of millions of working class voters. It's quite clear that this
exposure of the DP, and its role in propping up the Republicans as Camejo
stresses,
issues from the left. Given the position that revolutionary marxists find
themselves in at this juncture in the US, the formal question "are you for
capitalism or socialism" takes a very distant second place in importance to
building
a movement of the broad anti-corporate left that hastens the breakup of the
two party system and its deadly stranglehold on what passes for the left here.
I
haven't yet seen from Marxist groups like the ISO and the CWI who actively
support Nader-Camejo any illusions about either Nader or the Green Party as
socialist As I read their press and hear from members they view it as a left
political vehicle where they're welcome and can have an influence. Can
activists
bring principled antiwar, anticorporate, pro-working class, pro-gay,
tax-the-rich politics into the Democratic Party! It's simply not allowed or
tolerated.
Ilyenkova
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- Thread context:
- [Marxism] Socialist/Revolutionary Consciousness as a Material Force.,
Craven, Jim Sun 26 Sep 2004, 23:02 GMT
- [Marxism] Re Camejo to speak at CCNY,
Ilyenkova Sun 26 Sep 2004, 21:29 GMT
- [Marxism] Alexander Cockburn: "C'mon Ralph, You've Got Nothing To Lose",
Walter Lippmann Sun 26 Sep 2004, 20:13 GMT
- [Marxism] Liberal blogs,
Louis Proyect Sun 26 Sep 2004, 15:17 GMT
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