Re: [Marxism] A critique of Genovese

["Pieinsky" <pieinsky@xxxxxxx>]

Agreed.  But, in other cases, this type of analysis points to the sources of
resistance to capitalism as with the Populist Movement.

jay


----- Original Message -----
From: "Charles Brown" <cbrown@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Friday, July 09, 2004 11:59 AM
Subject: [Marxism] A critique of Genovese


> Yea, but the "subsumed" slave mode and associated culture/tradition in the
> U.S. South was not uncapitalist in a progressive sense as Genovese implies
> or outright says. It was uncapitalist in a reactionary sense.
>
> Charles
>
> From: "Pieinsky" <pieinsky@xxxxxxx>
>
> This either/or that Yang lays out is wrong. Genovese in my opinion was
>
> closer to the truth. What Yang fails to acknowledge in his critique of
>
> Genovese is Marx's very important distinction between the (1) "formal
>
> subsumption" and the (2) "real subsumption" of non-capitalist modes of
>
> production by or into capitalism. Thus, under "formal subsumption",
>
> non-capitalist features such as chattel slavery or peasant production may
be
>
> maintained -- as indeed at least the latter continues to be in many parts
of
>
> the world today -- within the context of overall capitalist production for
>
> the market. "Real sumpsumption" occurs when the capitalist transforms the
>
> laborer fully into a wage worker under direct capitalist control. French
>
> Marxist anthropologists like Terray and Meillasoux back in the 1970s used
>
> Althusser's similar "articulation of the modes of production" to theorize
>
> the same kind of ongoing relationship. I am invoking this same approach of
>
> "articulation of modes" in my dissertation in trying to explicate how
>
> peasant-like "closed corporate" Puritan villages operated internally in
>
> colonial New England even while these villages on another level were
>
> producing value through fishing, the fur trade, support for slavery and
the
>
> slave trade, land grabbing from the Indians, etc. for the rising bourgeois
>
> System.
>
> best,
>
> jay
>
> www.neravt.com/left/ <outbind://24/www.neravt.com/left/>
>
> P.S. I come originally from the American South, and there are still many
>
> cultural elements resembling feudalism/paternalism the
>
>
>
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