Re: [Marxism] FWD: Argentines Burn U.S. Flag to Protest SendingTroops to Haiti

["Nestor Gorojovsky" <nestorgoro@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Respuesta a: [Marxism] FWD: Argentines Burn U.S.
Remitido por: David Walters
Fecha: Viernes 2 de Julio de 2004 
Hora: 9:32
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> Hi Nestor, et al,
>   I only posted this because it's the first report manifestation of 
> opposition to what the Argentine gov't is doing... in Argentina. I 
> haven't a clue about this group, not having ever heard of them, nor 
> could I care (albeit I am interested and thankful for your analysis of 
> it).

No, David, this is not the first manifestation.  Maybe you don't have 
access to the adequate sources, but it is already a good fortnight 
that many political parties (from the ultra-right to the ultra-left, 
mainly those based on Buenos Aires or the déclassé petty bourgeoisie 
of the largest Inland cities, which are not the industrial hubs they 
were thirty years ago) have decided that K. is a traitor or whatever, 
and are against him.  This is a striking feature of our political 
life: every time a Prez hints to take a more or less popular path, 
then the whole rainbow of sepoys springs up to boo him.  I don't like 
a lot of things of K.  But this sign is by itself a good guide: he 
must be doing something well.  Why, even the WSJ and NYT boom against 
K. from time to time!

I have on my desk a leaflet by the MAS (one of the groups that 
remains of the old MAS that was led by the American SWP 30 years 
ago).  They blame Kirchner for everything, including the murder of 
Cisneros, which any sensible observer realizes that runs against 
every interest of Kirchner as a politician and even as a bourgeois 
(if he was a bourgeois, which he isn't).  This is their position.  If 
they are so fervently anti K., dear Walter, I am sure I will be at 
most moderately anti-what-K-does-not-do-well.

> 
>  From my vantage point, in the US, I see Argentina and Brazil trying to 
> make kissee-face with the US while at the same time seeking distance on 
> how to establish 'fair trade' between these two blocks. "Yes, we do 
> what we want, but we'll help you restore 'order' to our fellow Latin 
> Americans in Haiti, better us than you...". So when I see anybody 
> opposing the occupation of Haiti, I'm glad, even if their methods suck.

This is a mistake.  If Q. gets to the fore (or some of their 
similars), then they will reinforce those trends within Arg political 
action that favor occupation armies of Haiti _AND_ of Argentina.  
This is positively not Arg advisors teaching Central American 
torturers how to extract the last milligram of life out of a burnt 
skin.

> 
> Regardless of how important the 'popularization' of the Armed forces is 
> in Argentina, it's irrelevant in terms of the role... new role?... they 
> want to play internationally vis-a-vis the US...which must be analsyed 
> in it's own terms from the point of view of US imperialism, and Haitian 
> sovereignty.

Not only it is not irrelevant.  It is essential.  IF the Armed Forces 
are pushed down the path of "popularization", as you call it, then 
they will next oppose to leave Arg.  Maybe you don't know this, but 
the decission has aroused a great scandal in... Chile of all places!

Why?  Because even Pinochet and his gang had established the rule 
that Chilean Armed Forces, nurtured in the reactionary and 
isolationist ABP doctrine (Argentina, Bolivia, Perú), would never 
leave the country and their only goal was to defend Chile.  This is a 
strange twist of events, whereby an isolationist (thus balkainizing) 
theory and doctrine serves an "anti-imperialist" road.

Today, Haitian sovereignty means little less than nothing, whether we 
like it or not.  It is imperialist armies and imperialst agents who 
have taken us to this sore situation.  I don't like the idea of Arg 
troops there covering US interests.  But things may choose a 
different turn.  Let us wait and see.

The best thing that can happen to Haiti is that the Arg Armed Forces 
turn to a "national defense" doctrine, which will bring them nearer 
to the interests of L.A. as a whole.

Néstor Miguel Gorojovsky
nestorgoro@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

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"Sí, una sola debe ser la patria de los sudamericanos".
Simón Bolívar al gobierno secesionista y disgregador de 
Buenos Aires, 1822
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