Re: [Marxism] Skewering "Fahrenheit 9/11"

[Einde O'Callaghan <einde@xxxxxx>]

Scotlive@xxxxxxx wrote:
> In a message dated 7/2/04 12:42:35 PM Pacific Daylight Time, cbcox@xxxxxxxxx
> writes:
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> > We are not sorting laundry into baskets.
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> I agree. But this also applies to lumping people into a certain class, with
> the same interests and outlook merely according to their position in the
> process of wealth creation. To me a member of the working class is someone who
> identifies him or herself as such.

I think this is a confusion of objective class position and class
consciousness - the difference between a "class in itself" and a "class
for itself". Class position is an objective relationship with the means
of production, whereas class consciousness which has to develop and
which can vary considerably between people with the same objective class
position - in the working class between the conscious revolutionary
worker and the scab. People are working class regardless of whether they
consider themkselves to be so or not. Often they only come to this
consciousness through the experience of struggle.

Einde O'Callaghan


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