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Re: [Marxism] RE: USSR, Democracy and the Environment
- To: Activists and scholars in Marxist tradition <marxism@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: Re: [Marxism] RE: USSR, Democracy and the Environment
- From: Louis Proyect <lnp3@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 15:55:40 -0400
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Calvin Broadbent wrote:
Hi Louis and Melvin,
Thanks for your posts- much appreciated. Do you think, as some
Trotskyists seem to have it, that given that (or 'if') the USSR was in
competition with the capitalist West, and trying to 'outproduce' it and
outperform the West economically, that the 'law of value', the
determination of production according to the laws of exchange value, was
still in operation?
This is a very complex question. I think it is difficult to extrapolate
"the law of value" in the absense of a capitalist class. Despite all the
attempts of people like Tony Cliff and Charles Bettelheim to explain the
USSR as a class society, I am more convinced by Alec Nove and others who
found the profit motive in short supply. Unless you have a market in
labor and the threat of unemployment, it is very difficult to generate
surplus value.
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- [Marxism] Blair and TV,
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