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Re: [Marxism] Mode of production in material life
In a message dated 5/11/04 12:45:28 PM Mountain Daylight Time,
Waistline2@xxxxxxx writes:
> Mode of production in its fundamentality is always man/women + tools,
> instruments
> and machinery + energy source. Mode of production - in its fundamentality,
> never means the property relations within. [my emphasis]
Not to quibble, but I think you just over-stretched this last piece over the
loom of your argument: Mode of production never means only or exclusively or
merely the property relations within but includes them.
Would it not be more accurate to say that Marx defines "mode of production"
as the (human/social) relations of production, including the forms of
property, plus the means of production (which include instruments of production
that
require or pre-suppose energy sources)?
I think we agree on what you weave from these threads:
The mode of production cannot be reduced to the property relations associated
with it, and a change in the property relations in and of itself does not
constitute a change in the mode of production, let alone a "revolution" absent a
qualitative change in the relations of production. And hence, changing the
property form (e.g., by placing means of production under the nominal ownership
of the state, or cooperatives, or trade unions, or the "whole people") is
necessary but insufficient to a revolution in the mode of production.
Douglas L. Vaughan, Jr.
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