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Re: [Marxism] Attitude toward Iraqi CP
- To: Activists and scholars in Marxist tradition <marxism@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: Re: [Marxism] Attitude toward Iraqi CP
- From: Louis Proyect <lnp3@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 18:37:31 -0400
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Alex LoCascio wrote:
Dear Comrade Brian,
If I were you, I wouldn't get too worked up over our
Laptop Guerillas on Marxmail, who are the sort of absurd
funhouse mirror reflection of Cruise Missile liberals
like Christopher Hitchens and David Rieff.
Is this like what my high school teachers used to tell me in the
1950s--that the USSR and the USA were looking more and more like each
other and would meet in the middle? I never really understood this.
Well, I do enjoy my cocktails. So maybe that makes me and Christopher
Hitchens kissing cousins.
My late comrade and teacher Martin Glaberman use to
tell an old story about George Rawick, when the latter
was a member of the Workers Party while it tried
to formulate a position on Sri Lanka. After receiving
a negative answer to the question of whether the WP
had any forces on the ground, he asked "what the hell
do we need an official position for?"
But it is very important for the Marxmail party to have a position on
everything in the world. Our Cyprus commission is working on a line at
this very moment. After Jim Farmelant presents the majority position, we
expect all Marxmailers to defend the line in public until the next
convention meets in my living room. Drinks are on me.
Assuming that post participants on this list agree on
a U.S. withdrawal from Iraq, I don't understand what the
point is about drawing lines in the sand about which forces
one "supports." I must've missed the call out for the
Marxmail.org Abraham Lincoln Brigade for Iraq.
I guess the issue is what attitude to take toward the Iraq CP or
something. I personally have more animus toward their comrades in
Nicaragua who urged a vote for Violetta Chamorro in 1990, but I wouldn't
wish that they got shot or something. Maybe somebody should force them
to listen to Michael Bolton CD's as punishment.
Macho chest-beating and warrior posturing isn't just political
empty, it's also just totally goofy.
Ah, what the hell. There's nothing wrong with letting off a little
steam. If you hold things in, you might develop bipolar symptoms or
something.
Some words of wisdom:
"What is tiresome in ideological arguments is that one is necessarily
swept away by the 'model of war.' That is to say that when you find
yourself facing someone with ideas different from your own, you are
always led to identify that person as an enemy (of your class, your
society, etc.). And we know that it is necessary to wage combat
against the enemy until triumphing over him.
Hmmm. Foucault. Have you read what Alain Badiou had to say on the matter?
What must be emphasized is that to purify the real means to extract it
from the reality that envelops and occults it. Whence the violent taste
for surface and transparency. The century attempts to react against
depth. It carries out a fierce critique of foundations and of the
beyond, it promotes the immediate and the surface of sensation. It
proposes, as heir to Nietzsche, to abandon all other-worlds, and to pose
that the real is identical to appearance. Thought, precisely because
what drives it is not the ideal but the real, must seize hold of
appearance as appearance, or of the real as pure event of its own
appearance. To achieve this, it must destroy every density, every claim
to substantiality, every assertion of reality. It is reality that acts
as an obstacle to the discovery of the real as pure surface. Here lies
the struggle against semblance. But since the semblance-of-reality
adheres to the real, the destruction of semblance comes to be identified
with destruction pure and simple. At the end of its purification, the
real, as total absence of reality, is the nothing. This path, undertaken
by innumerable ventures in the century – political, artistic, scientific
ventures – is the path of terrorist nihilism. Since its subjective
motivation is the passion for the real, it is not a consent to anything,
it is a creation, and one should recognise in it the traits of an active
nihilism.
--
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