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Re: [Marxism] Re: The Anatomy of Fascism
In a message dated 5/4/04 6:01:51 AM Mountain Daylight Time,
edgeorge@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
> The specific difficulty that has now arisen as a consequence of this
> ahistoric and deconcretised way of looking at things is the abstract
> view of 'nationalism' on which it is based. For the nationalism of
> Perón, for example, and the nationalism of Franco, are not the same.
> Argentina was, and is, in the imperialist system, an oppressed country.
> Spain, wasn't, and isn't. The distinction between the nationalism of an
> oppressed nation and the nationalism of an oppressor nation is so
> fundamental that it is embarrassing to have to point it out.
>
agreed, in part, but you have thereby also "deconcretised" and abstracted and
schematically applied the label of "oppressed" to justify the "good" (useful,
to the proletariat?) nationalism of Peron as opposed to the "bad" corporatist
version of Franco. I'm not sure that gets us any closer to an understanding
of the real similarities and differences in the respective responses of those
corporatist regimes to the independent, class-conscious organization of the
workingclass as a revolutionary threat to the rule of capital. That's another
problem with "distinctions" that are "embarrassing to have to point out."
Douglas L. Vaughan, Jr.
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- Thread context:
- Re: [Marxism] Re: The Anatomy of Fascism, (continued)
- Re: [Marxism] Re: The Anatomy of Fascism,
DLVinvest Tue 04 May 2004, 04:45 GMT
- [Marxism] Re: The Anatomy of Fascism,
Ed George Tue 04 May 2004, 11:58 GMT
- Re: [Marxism] Re: The Anatomy of Fascism,
DLVinvest Tue 04 May 2004, 20:45 GMT
- Re: [Marxism] Re: The Anatomy of Fascism,
DLVinvest Tue 04 May 2004, 21:07 GMT
- [Marxism] Re: The Anatomy of Fascism,
Ed George Wed 05 May 2004, 15:05 GMT
- Re: [Marxism] Re: The Anatomy of Fascism,
DLVinvest Wed 05 May 2004, 19:11 GMT
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