RE: Zionism and Nazism, during the early 1930s [was Re: [Marxism] Re: anti-semitism andIsrael]

["Craven, Jim" <JCraven@xxxxxxxxx>]

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 Marion:

"It falls into the realm of Holocaust revisionism to say that Zionists
-whether left, right or center- would collaborate with Nazis. 

"The underlying agenda of those who make this claim is denomization of
all  Israelis and all Jews."  

Response (Jim C): As long as I know myself and the true
origins/intentions of what I believe, this type of mindless slander by
someione who does not know me is meaningless. I despise Zionists for
precisely the same reasons that I despise nazis. I do not deny the
occurrence of the Holocaust, I seek a fuller/full examination and
discussion of the true causes, dimensions and impacts of the
Holocaust--on non-Jews as well as on Jews. Here are some examples of
Zionist collaboration with nazis (see Lenni Brenner's "Zionism in the
Age of the Dictators", "The Wall", "51 Documents of Zionist
Collaboration with Nazis", Tom Segev's "The Seventh Million" and Norman
Finkelstein's "The Holocaust Industry".

>From Part One of a previous submission "Zionists and/as Nazis":

>From Tom Segev, "The Seventh Million: Israelis and the Holocaust" Hill
and Wang, NY, 1993

" On January 31, 1933, the day after Hitler became chancellor, the
independent liberal daily 'Haaretz' decried this 'hugely negative
historical event'. Ten days later it ran a headline that read, 'BLACK
DAYS IN GERMANY.' The paper followed the ongoing 'anti-Semitic horror',
but during those first weeks it, like the British press, generally aimed
at reassuring its readers: 'One must suppose that Hitlerism will now
renounce terrorist methods: government brings responsibility.' the
right-wing 'Doar Hayom' agreed: 'There can be no doubt that Hitler the
chancellor will be different from the Hitler of the public rallies.' But
from the start, 'Davar'--the left-wing daily published by the Histadrut
(Labor Federation)--was more pessimistic: 'It was a bitter and ill-fated
day when the New Vandal came to power', the newspaper wrote the day
after the change of government in Germany. It described Hitler as a man
of hate and demagoguery who would 'tear Jews out by their roots.' " (p
17)

"More than anything else, though, the rise of the Nazis was seen as
confirming the historical prognosis of Zionist ideology. 'Hapoel
Hatsair' described the nazi persecution of the Jews as 'punishment for
their having tried to integrate into German society instead of leaving
for Palestine while it was still possible to do so.' Now they would have
to run in a panic 'like mice in flight', the paper said. 'The Jews of
Germany are being persecuted now not despite their efforts to be part of
their country but because of those efforts.' The holocaust would later
be the primary argument fro the establishment of the State of Israel and
for its wars of survival." (p. 18)

"Ben-Gurion hoped that the Nazis victory would become 'a fertile force'
for Zionism." (p. 18)

"The 'haavara' ('transfer') agreement--the Hebrew term was used in the
Nazi documents as well--was based on the complementary interests of the
German government and the Zionist movement: the Nazis wanted the Jews
out of Germany; the Zionists wanted them to come to Palestine. But there
was no such mutuality of interests between the Zionists and German
Jewry. Most German Jews would have preferred to stay in their country.
The tension between the interests of the 'yishuv' [Jewish community in
Palestine] (and, in time, the State of Israel) and those of world Jewry
was to become a central motif in the story of the Israelis' attitude to
the Holocaust." (p.
20)

"The revisionist right, by contrast, had long been sympathetic to Benito
Mussolini's Fascism and now and then even to Adolf Hitler's
Naziism--except, of course, his anti-Semitism. Betar, Jabotinsky's youth
movement, fostered classic Fascist ideas and forms. In 1928, Abba
Ahimeir, a well-known Revisionist journalist, had a regular column,
'From the Notebook of a Fascist', in the newspaper 'Doar Hayom'. In
anticipation of Jabotinsky's arrival in Palestine, he wrote an article
titled 'On the Arrival of Our Duce' " (p. 23)

"Four years later, in early 1932, Ahimeir was among those brought to
trial for disrupting a public lecvture at Hebrew University. The
incident and the resulting trial are worthy of note only because of a
declaration by defense attorney Zvi Eliahu Cohen in response to a speech
by the prosecutor comparing the disruption of the lecture with the Nazi
disturbances in Germany. 'The comment on the Nazis', Cohen said, 'went
too far. Were it not for Hitler's anti-Semitism, we would not oppose his
ideology. Hitler saved Germany.' This was not an unconsidered outburst;
the REvisionist paper 'Hazit Haam' praised Cohen's 'brilliant speech.' "
(p. 23)

"...[from Hazit Haam] 'Social Democrats of all stripes believe that
Hitler's movement is an empty shell.', the newspaper explained, but 'we
believe that there is both a shell and a kernel. The anti-Semitic shell
is to be discarded, but not the anti-Marxist kernel. The Revisionists,
the newspaper wrote, would fight the Nazis only to the extent that they
were anti-Semites." (p. 23)

to be continued...

Jim C.
  

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