[Marxism] The Unity Of Green Politics

["Jeff Rubard" <jeffrubard@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

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> Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 00:29:17 -0600
> From: "Tony Abdo" <gojack10@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [Marxism] Mexico's Green Party in Context
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> So we got this week a one-two punch delivered at the 'Leftist' PRD.
> Taking bribe money by one PRD hack, and gambling by another in Las Vegas.
>   Both filmed by the Fox gang, and turned over to the press.     The
> Mexican
> Greens are no more corrupt than any other political party in Mexico.
> Though that is damning them with faint praise indeed.

Wow, this is the level of Green corruption in Mexico?
Great, but please also to remember that Green politics is
really "abstentionist" in a "thoroughly principled" way; i.e.,
for the most part European Greens are tired radicals who
want to let other people have their fun and this is something
like shorthand (for a worldview roughly mapping onto Fichte's
fifth age, or the "vocation of man"). Greens are not too dynamic,
and if a country is going through a "modernization crisis"
(the judgment on Mexico which is allowed from a principled
"outsider" perspective, as it is roughly the thoroughly *responsible*
analysis of the contemporary world-system) it's highly doubtful that
Green politics can be a serious broad-based alternative to the more
traditional political forms of social-democracy and anarcho-syndicalism
(the latter too jokey by half, as serious Leninists well know).
>
> Though there are certainly differences, Mexican politics is so very
> similar
> in many ways to what goes on constantly in the US.
>

This is not exactly true, and earlier Texas "scenes" have quite a bit to
do with that: isn't it so that Mexico is not really understood as a country
right next to the US, in the way that Canada is not quite understood
as a non-republican political body dedicated to "impression management"
and not equalitarian political representation -- and really, such confusions
cost those not in the know regarding "real American values" quite a bit.
If freedom and equality are your bag, it's important to understand the
strengths as well as the weaknesses of the US governmental system --
without such perspectives, it's impossible to have anything like the
leverage necessary to have even the merest genuine *popular* political
measures.  But, following up on my comment to Mr. Alam, I suppose
it's genuinely questionable how much of this requires "cultural education"
and how much must needs be simply insisting on the rule of right reason
when issues threaten to spill over into social systems that cannot easily
"process" them using consensus-formation -- "welfare economics" is
rather pointedly something that Greens refuse to do, and that this
seems to be secretly the case with that "growing concern" you speak of
is cheering to me.


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