Re: [Marxism] Nader is to be Applauded for Departing the Green Party

["Paul H. Dillon" <illonph@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Bravo!

The fact is that the 22% of the people who "strongly dislike" or "hate" the
Bush regime is far more important than the pundits are wont to grant.
Dislike and anger are much stronger emotions than "approve or disapprove".

When the crisis hits (as it is hitting) the contradictions are there for all
to see.  The most glaring contradiction now is the constant media
bombardment about the improvement in the economy (stock market going up,
profitability) and the reality that every worker knows,  things have really
been getting worse.  The only consistent system that explains this is the
marxist analysis of capitalism.  Why aren't people out there educating about
the marxist theory of capitalist exploitation that links the two???

Since Marxism and socialism can no longer be associated with a foreign power
as they were from 1917 through 1989, the capitalist ideologues can now only
mock and laugh about it as an anachronistic experiment whose ultimate
failure has already been demonstrated.  Let them mock. They fail to
recognize the battle for the war.   If put in the right form -- enough
Americans might very well support increased public control of  productive
resources and activities to create a powerful force.  Weren't the
Bolsheviks were only 5% of total political party membership in 1917 Russia.

The mealy-mouth disavowal of socialist advocacy and direct attack on the
capitalist system should end!!!  A Soviet psychologist, Lev Vygotsky,
developed a notion of learning known as the Zone of Proximal Development.
It would be a good tool for looking at how to approach the problem of
re-educating people about socialism and the marxist critique of capitalism.

Paul H. Dillon



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----- Original Message -----
From: "les evenchick" <piratefish@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "Activists and scholars in Marxist tradition"
<marxism@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2003 3:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Marxism] Nader is to be Applauded for Departing the Green
Party


>
>
> Tony:
> This certainly is not the
> > time for building an
> > anti-capitalist electoral campaign.    That is
> > spinnning one's wheels in
> > mud.
> >
>
>
> Les:
>
> In my view Tony is precisely wrong.
>
> Now is an optimum time to build an
> anti-capitalist campaign.
>
> People are generally open to explanations of why
> all these problems are occuring in their lives
> and in the world and those of us who know the
> root of the problems is in the capitalist system
> itself ought to be educating others about it.
>
> Both demonstations and electoral campaigns should
> be used.
>
> Lets not have a repeat of the Vietnam war days
> when even the socialist parties did not talk
> about capitalism at mass rallies and
> demonstrations and thereby had no basis for
> mobilizing people after the war ended.
>
> I remember specifically the giant demonstration
> and rally in the spring of 1967 in New York where
> about 17 different groups had speakers at the
> rally.
>
> Only the rep from the Puerto Rican Independence
> Movement talked about the capitalist system being
> the root cause of the Vietnam war.
>
> Is this knowledge to be kept to ourselves because
> some are afraid the masses are not ready to hear
> anti-capitalist analysis?
>
> I have not found this to be the case in my
> election campaign where in spite of almost no
> money I have had sizable votes based on issues
> that challenge the capitalist system.
>
> In my recent campaign I had much higher vote %
> than greens who ran as "Progressives" and did not
> challenge the system(11.4% to 6% for a green
> candidate in an adjoining district who spent 10
> times what I did) $500 vs $5000+.  And my
> progressive Democratic Party opponent spent over
> $112,000.
>
> Don't underestimate the intelligence of the mass
> of people WHEN they are presented with clear
> explanations and proposals.
>
> The favorite of my 7 key issues was "Let the
> Iraqi's reorganize their own society" Not the US
> and not the UN or NATO
>
> I am for an all out anti-capitalist campaign by
> someone or some party and I don't understand why
> lots of "Marxists" don't support the same.
>
>                       Les Evenchick
>                       New Orleans
>
>
>
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