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SSP's Murray Smith on the national Question in Western Europe (was Re: [Marxism] Re: National questions and 'national questions')
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- Subject: SSP's Murray Smith on the national Question in Western Europe (was Re: [Marxism] Re: National questions and 'national questions')
- From: glparramatta <glparramatta@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 20:01:15 +1100
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Richard Fidler wrote:
I share much of Philip Ferguson's skepticism about the justification for and
progressive
potential of Scottish nationalism, as I have indicated in previous posts to
this list. On
the other hand, it is heartening to see the progress of the SSP, which I think
is only
partly explained by its support of an independent Scotland. The case for
Scottish
oppression by England is not persuasive, and in fact few Scottish nationalists
(and no one
in the SSP to my knowledge) even attempt to make it. Scottish disaffection with
the
English union is a product of regional alienation, as Philip explains, and not
national
oppression, although the putative existence of a Scottish nation gives it a
national
expression.
Phil is also correct, in my view, to note the role of Croatia and Slovenia, the
relatively
developed parts of Yugoslavia, in fostering Kosova nationalist resentment by
refusing to
contribute to the development of the relatively underdeveloped regions of the
country.
This has been documented by many authors, ranging from the liberal Susan
Woodward (Balkan
Tragedy) to the Marxist Catherine Samary (Yugoslavia Dismembered). Essentially,
what this
reflected was the evolution of a Stalinist bureaucratic ruling caste into an
increasingly
self-conscious class of would-be capitalists eager to strike deals with European
imperialist powers in the wake of the collapse of Titoism and subsequently of
the Soviet
Union.
But none of this negates my point, which I make in opposition to Louis Proyect's
trivialization of the Kosova national question, that it was precisely this
failure to
address the actually existing national question in Kosova that gave imperialism
the
pretext and the means to foster and exploit secessionist tendencies and the
KLA. It is not
a question of "making a fetish of self-determination" but rather an object
lesson in the
dangers of ignoring the need for strenuous measures to overcome national
inequality,
however it is expressed and whatever the forms taken by the struggle against it.
This, of course, is not intended as an argument in favour of anti-Serb
nationalism, still
less of the imperialist intervention in Yugoslavia.
Richard Fidler
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