Re: [Marxism] Fascism Today: Rock-Bottom Remainders

[Jim Farmelant <farmelantj@xxxxxxxx>]

O"OpenSentence Type Foundry" <typefoundry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
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> > The development of the german experience is NOT mutually discreet to
> > that of
> > other fascisms. It is significantly different. For one, it came to
power
> > after winning democratic elections. For another, it originally came
> > from a
> > working class movement, with heavy anti-establishment subjectiveness.
>
> We're getting confused because of the discrete/discreet variation, but
I
> don't think (though you're not suggesting) the NSDAP needs to be
praised
> (and for what it's worth, the Fascists started out with pretty plebeian
> roots as well and cred from Mussolini's time in the PSI).  But the real
> estate old fascist movements take up in the political conscious needs
to
be
> reduced, as there are no exact equivalents among contemporary
extreme-right
> groups (even the British National Front, far more savage than Le Pen,
has
> other axes to grind than absolute state control) and there are rough
> equivalents to fascist techniques and organizations on the genuine
left;
> such that leftists can get charged for messes they didn't make for
once,
and
> such that groups that have no very clear principles and dubious tactics
can
> appear to be absolute defenders of freedom.  I have the Lega Nord,
which
> turns *Telos* on, in mind: they're against globalization, but they're
also
> against the globalization that's already happened.  But one could also
> consider "culture-jamming" organizations, such as are all
well-intentioned
> and are occasionally well-considered, in such a light.
>
> NB: Apropos of the above discussion of the Vienna Circle, it's
interesting
> to note that Otto Neurath was an economic minister for the
*koenigliche*
> side of the Austrian Soviet Republic, and the Circlers were all fairly
close
> to Austro-Marxism: which is perhaps as far as anyone need go, provided
you
> can live on sweet things *and* ground is not being taken up as
described
> above (such as has occurred in the US with "logical positivism" and its
> successors; Carnap would be highly unscientific, and a few other choice
> words, by contemporary subdisciplinary standards).

Actually, Neurath was a minister for the Soviet Republic of Bavaria.
After the 1919 German revolution was suppressed, he was put
on trial for treason by the Weimar government.  Charges against
him were dropped following intercession by the Austrian government
and by prominent German academics like his old teacher, Max Weber.

I have written about him and the Vienna Circle at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/marxism@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/msg23392.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/marxism@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/msg20252.html

Jim F.

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