Marxism
mailing list archive
[ Other Periods
| Other mailing lists
| Search
]
Date:
[ Previous
| Next
]
Thread:
[ Previous
| Next
]
Index:
[ Author
| Date
| Thread
]
[Marxism] Re: SWP participation in UK antiwar protests
Peter Evans' arguments about British nationalism as a factor in opposition to
the US-British war are completely specious. If the protesters are opposing the
US participation in the war, but are silent or supporting the British
imperialist position on it, then there would be a serious problem and a big
fight and very possibly an outright split to form a different kind of movement
would be appropriate.
But that is not the problem. People are fighting the British participation in
the war starting from politics as they variously understand it. That is just
what is needed.
The SWP-US role in this process is completely reactionary and includes a
definitely social-imperialist element. They are outraged because people in
other imperialist countries oppose their government's war.
If the British rulers have become more divided about the war (I don't know
that this is the case), good! If divisions among the rulers open a little more
space for the protesters and make it easier to attract new forces, good!
During the Vietnam war, taking acount and ADVANTAGE of divisions in the ruling
class was a legitimate component of the strategy we followed. We knew it
opened more space. We knew it attracted forces like some of the labor
bureaucrats or the "moratorium" people in the antiwar movement, some of whom we
ended up winning to the party. We had people like Sen. Vance Hartke speak at
demonstrations -- bringing the divisions right into the center of the protest
platform.
If people want to make propaganda about the real role of the ruling class and
why it needs to align and subordinate itself to Washington and join in all the
crimes of US imperialism, that's fine. I'm a strong believer in patient
explanation of that kind. I don't think a mass movement would thrive without
it.. But as an excuse to place yourself in opposition to the anti-imperialist
thrust of the British antiwar movement, which is a movement in opposition to
the war their rulers are carrying out here and now, is phony as a three dollar
bill and a political crime to boot. And for somebody from New York to come
over and insist that the boys and girls in Britain act on that line is
social-imperialist through and through.
Its because the British ruling class is too weak to contend on its own. Its
good, of course, that its so weak (that also makes it more vulnerable to the
antiwar movement). Not only would the British not be in Iraq without US
imperialism. They wouldn't be in the Falkland Islands. They could hardly hold
on to Ireland or maybe even Scotland and Wales without the support of US
imperialism. That's what makes Blair act like a puppy dog (his physical
resemblance to a puppy dog may have genetic or psychological sources).
Today, the SWP is opposed to denouncing Bush in the United States because they
say the war is bipartisan and therefore its not fair to denounce Bush and the
United States without focusing your fire entirely or mostly on your own
government. There would have been no international antiwar movement against
the war in Vietnam if that happened. In this country, the SWP says that if you
center your fire on Bush -- the HEAD of the imperialist government, the HEAD of
the bipartisan war party -- you are a rotten Democrat and they will oppose your
coalition and your protest. There is always a reason for opposing expressions
of outrage against the current occupant of the White House.
If the SWP wants the fire to shift to the Democrats, I guess they should join
the effort to get one in the White House. I don't care who is in the White
House, really, as long as we are fighting the imperialist thug. But the SWP
isn't, of course, trying to elect a liberal imperialist, They want our fire to
be on the liberals or the French imperialist critics of Bush or the section of
the British ruling class that thinks Blair should move away from the US, or
anywhere but the leader of US imperialism and the war he is pursuing with a
great deal of British help.
I think .basically that the British movement is on the right track, and that
the SWP, if it keeps on its present course, is headed for straightup class
treason.
Fred Feldman
Back in the 1960s, we revolutionists in the antiwar movement were not afraid
to denounce the president of the United States, the Democrat Lyndon Johnson,
and hold him responsible for the war he was leading. When Nixon was
president, without changing our opposition to both parties, we kept our fire on
the center of power. We never criticized people for hating Johnson or Bush,
here or abroad. We advocated that those in other countries should fight their
country's complicity, partly because demands on their own government would
weaken the US war effort.
DIVISION AMONG THE ENEMY IS A GOOD THING! There isn't half enough
inter-imperialist conflict in the world today as far as I'm concerned. I look
forward to much more of it.
That doesn't call for the SWP's line which is opposed, on one pretext or
another, to fighting the role of British imperialism in Iraq and, above all,
opposed on one pretext or another to fighting the role of US imperialism in
Iraq.
Bush is the constitutional head of the imperialist government of the United
States, and takes full responsibility to the war. Why shouldn't people hate
his guts? Why shouldn't they take his name in vain?
- Thread context:
- [Marxism] general news from Venezuela 26 November 2003 (fwd),
Tony Tracy Thu 27 Nov 2003, 00:12 GMT
- [Marxism] The Occupation's War on Iraqi Workers (from Portside),
Fred Feldman Thu 27 Nov 2003, 00:02 GMT
- [Marxism] Spectres of 1919,
Yoshie Furuhashi Wed 26 Nov 2003, 23:31 GMT
- [Marxism] Re: (Marxism] SWP and Iraq,
Fred Feldman Wed 26 Nov 2003, 23:14 GMT
- [Marxism] Re: SWP participation in UK antiwar protests,
Fred Feldman Wed 26 Nov 2003, 23:14 GMT
- [Marxism] Nepal,
Philip Ferguson Wed 26 Nov 2003, 22:11 GMT
- [Marxism] Barnesites and Mandela,
Philip Ferguson Wed 26 Nov 2003, 22:03 GMT
- [Marxism] Forwarded from Derrick O'Keefe (wheatpasting),
Louis Proyect Wed 26 Nov 2003, 21:38 GMT
- [Marxism] Tuesday Dec 2: Rally to Defend our Civil Liberites,
Mike Friedman Wed 26 Nov 2003, 21:29 GMT
[ Other Periods
| Other mailing lists
| Search
]