Re: (Spanish) The actual words by Toni Negri and his interviewer on Iraq

["Einde O'Callaghan" <einde@xxxxxx>]

Louis Proyect wrote:
> Nestor Gorojovsky wrote:
>
> > Negri: - Porque, por el momento, no se trata de una administración 
> > colonial, sino de un proceso clásico de "nation building" 
> > (construcción de nación). Y por ende se trata de una transformación de 
> > sentido democrático.  Ese es el pretexto de Estados Unidos. Es una 
> > ocupación militar que derribó un régimen, pero después el problema es 
> > "nation building", o sea un intento de transición, no de 
> > colonización.  Sería como decir que es colonizador el hecho de pasar 
> > de la dictadura a la democracia en Hungría o Checoslovaquia. No hay 
> > una actitud de ese tipo en la administración estadounidense. Estos 
> > estadounidenses quieren parecer más malos de lo que son.
>
>
> I don't think this quite adds up to an endorsement of the occupation. It 
> is instead a kind of mandarin intellectualization of the issues, a 
> clever playing with the question of whether the USA is like Victorian 
> England.
I don't speak Spanish, but this Babelfish translation (despite 
inadequacies) seems pretty conclusive to me:

Oscar Raul Cardoso: - there are characteristics of the no situation that 
retrotraen us to the imperialism of century 19: military occupation, an 
authority created by the metropolis and an appropriation of natural 
resources (petroleum) and new assigned businesses arbitrarily to 
companies of that metropolis?

Negri: - All those affirmations are false, of the first a the last one.

O.R.C.: - Because '?

Negri: - Because, at the moment, one is not a colonial administration, 
but of a classic process of "nation building" (construction of nation). 
And therefore one is a transformation of democratic sense. That is the 
pretext of the United States. It is a military occupation that 
demolished a regime, but later the problem is "nation building", that is 
an attempt of transition, not of colonization. It would be like saying 
that the fact to happen of the dictatorship is colonizador to the 
democracy in Hungary or Czechoslovakia. There is no an attitude of that 
type in the American administration. These Americans want to seem worse 
of which they are.

Einde O'Callaghan


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