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Re: party structure
- To: marxism@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Subject: Re: party structure
- From: "Einde O'Callaghan" <einde@xxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 01:57:58 +0100
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David Walters wrote:
Louis wrote:
Sounds to me like you've been reading Kevin Anderson. If the party was
becoming more centralized, then things got really screwed up in 1917. All
the Central Committee members that opposed seizing power (Stalin,
Zinoviev,
et al) went directly to the masses in clear violation of party
discipline.
None were expelled. As far as I know, the only Bolshevik who ever got
expelled was Bogdanov. In my party someone got expelled for refusing to
paint a mural that satisfied the party's top brass political prejudices.
(Hi, Mike).
I think it is more complex than this. For Paul, I highly recommend
Rabinowitch's "The Bolsheviks Come To Power", an amazingly detailed look
at the Bolshevik Party organization in Petrograd in 1917. Its level of
"centralization" locally was more akin to the Unitarian Church than what
we know of Marxism-Leninism today. Basically they were a step more
organized than Anarchists and about as effective...but that's another
story...
In the 'other' direction, I highly recommend Robert M. Slusser's
"Stalin in October" (John Hopkin's Press). While focusing on Stalin's
role before during and after the October revolution (or lack there of in
Mr. Slusser's opinion) it gives a very interesting view of how the
Bolsheviks were organized and presents an opposing point of view to
Rabinowitch, at least from the point of view of high the Bolshevik CC
related locally to the local Petrograd organization. He shows quite
clearly Lenin's trend toward more centralization.
In contrary to Louis' thesis about the Bolsheviks and the Comintern, or
perhaps just a supplement to what he said, I think Louis would be hard
pressed to find much debate over the "21 Points" at the founding of the
Comintern (drafted by Lenin as it were) which many point to as the
"Zinovievist" tendency that Louis alludes to. Lenin never presented a
counter-viewpoint to the position adopted by the Comintern, nor did he
seek to revise the Comintern and all it stood for prior to his death.
That the Comintern sections modeled themselves on the RCP is without
question what happened, but whether in fact this was particularly
"Zinovievist" is a very debatable point.
Lenin did however criticise the Comintern resolutions on party
organisation as being too Russian, that foreign communists would be
unable to understand them and, even if they did understand them, they
would be unable to implement them.
He also opposed the publication of "What is to be done?" in foreign
languages without an extensive commentary. Instead what happened is that
WITBD was adopted as THE guide to creating parties of a Bolshevik
type, even though Lenin's own practice after the 1905 Revolution and
again in 1917 contradicted many of the arguments and guidelines in WITBD.
Einde O'Callaghan
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- Thread context:
- Re: party structure, (continued)
- Re: party structure,
illonph Tue 28 Oct 2003, 21:44 GMT
- Re: party structure,
David Walters Wed 29 Oct 2003, 00:23 GMT
- Re: party structure,
Nick Fredman Wed 29 Oct 2003, 02:05 GMT
- Re: party structure,
Waistline2 Wed 29 Oct 2003, 02:09 GMT
- Party structure,
Jurriaan Bendien Wed 29 Oct 2003, 02:25 GMT
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