Re: On a method of discussion that leaves ALL the questions unanswered

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In a message dated 9/29/03 3:40:06 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
dmschanoes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:


>Now everyone with an ounce of brains knew that production in Poland declined
due to the lack of vital components and parts imported from the West, not the
"unproductiveness" of the Polish workers.  Everyone with an ounce of brains
knew that steel produced in Poland was left to rust because warehousing,
distribution, and transportation systems were inadequate. Everyone with an 
ounce of
brains knew that productivity at the Gdansk shipyards, where Solidarity
claimed its origins, actually increased. Everyone knew that before the 
introduction
of the 5 day work week, coal miners were quite literally worked to death.
Every Marxist with an ounce of brains would agitate for expropriation of the
means of production, including private agriculture, the overthrow of the
bureaucracy, and the repudiation of the international debt.

But then no one with an ounce of brains would ever accuse the Sparticists of
being Marxists.<

dms


Comment

I have never publicly voiced an opinion confronting the various vassals of
the Soviet State. These vassals were a political and economic configuration of
the results of the Second Imperialist War and the European phenomenon called
fascism. This "thing" called fascism in the European terrain was the direct
result of Bolshevism and the defeat of the German Revolution. In my opinion its
political roots are in 1918 (Germany) and 1917 Russia. In history this is the
value system and the commodity form spontaneous response to assault.

I have never publicly written anything about the Republics of the Soviet
Union, because I do not debate with chauvinist. That is my choice.

In the world arena I am generally limited to the conclusion of the Great
Patriotic War. My only comments have been to state that Nikita was a buffoon,
beyond the period of the great War.  I have never in life written anything in
support of the bureaucracy. Never. You must understand that I am trapped by
history and can never win. Therefore I choose my death.  I shall not die as an
imperial lackey genuflecting to the chauvinist. Personal choice.

I of course understand your logic and it is correct - to me, because you
explain the role of the value system as it impacted the workers in the form of
agriculture. It is not as if the Polish workers or rather the workers in Poland
had a choice as such. On the other hand I did not capitulate to fascism, but
their bourgeoisie did (in Poland). It is not like there was a social revolution
- in the communist sense, in Poland, at the conclusion of WW2.

This question of the bureaucracy is not going to go away and we are going to
learn our own lessons. Yes, one can smash and crush the people in bureaucracy.
Then, 12 months later it appears in the name of Vanessa and Malik, instead of
Ivan and John Smith.

When you are historically trapped in the fight that cannot be won what do you
do? You fight like hell of course. The idea that one or a political force can
defeat the bureaucracy is lunacy. You fight and history defeats the
bureaucracy because it is a product of history.

The bourgeoisie as a class is smatter than us. History defeats them and we
are on the correct side.

Communism is of course inevitable.

Melvin P.


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