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Reply to Melvin
Melvin,
If I am not not qualified "on any level" to say anything about the politics
of US imperialism and the actions - historical and present, of the US
imperial bourgeoisie, then why bother reading my posts ? Point is, that
imperialism is not something that the USA engages in just in the USA, but
all over the world. I have had the USA spy on me in contravention of
national laws and exploit my interpersonally communicated ideas for profit
without my consent or even asking me. Then fucking GPU Melvin comes along
and tells me to shut up with a "third period" analysis of the world, even
although it is currently 2003.
Melvin P. just wants to shut people up from taking about US imperialism
elsewhere in the world, and, if they dare say anything about it, they should
be shot, imprisoned, tortured or be made to do forced labour, such as
responding to his idiocies. He is such a coward that he writes under a
pseudonym, just like the other cowards who spy on people's private lives,
and don't have the respect or decency to talk directly to them about what
their opinions, intentions and motives really are.
Look Melvin or whoever you are, if you deny that "prostitution today, is and
can be a form of primitive accumulation of capital" then you don't know
anything about the proletariat or about capitalism. Maybe you own three
cars, two houses and have worked in a Kentucky coalmine and consider
yourself very proletarian out there in some American suburb. But there are
millions of people in the world today who have nothing to sell but what is
between their legs, and when some pretentious Marxist wanker wants to
exclude them from the proletariat, because he turns his nose up at their
work, and thinks workers do not visit prostitutes in the same way that they
get a haircut, then that Marxist just reveals his stupid ignorance, humbug
and lack of human insight.
Your moralistic claptrap about "prostitution in today's world" being "a
grave evil and sign of social decay and outright slavery" is
neo-conservative bourgeois fundamentalism - it runs together the whoring of
all sorts of different social groups and social classes and whoring in all
sorts of situations in one big pot, according to some christian absolutist
fantasy about all prostitution being wrong at all times. According to you,
whoring should only be done in politics when sanctioned by a priest, and you
would like to be the priest in charge of determining who is whoring and who
isn't. Well, the best thing I can say is, "fuck you".
There is nothing MORALLY wrong with sex work "in general", what is wrong
with it, is that it signifies that unsatisfactory, alienating sexual, social
or communicative relations exist in some way, because if they did not exist,
sex would not exchange for money and would not be "work", simple as that.
But there are large numbers of other jobs in capitalist society in exactly
the same category, yet workers do them, some quite happily. So the only
pertinent question is "how could we arrange things so that sex is not work,
and sex does not need to exchange for money ?" and that is a very important
question for a socialist to ask, and investigate specifically and
empirically, and not cover it up with moral claptrap, general waffle and
human rights declarations. Even so, sex work will persist in specific
situations, even in a socialist society, because there are always new
reasons why people cannot get the sex they want in another way. The real
issue is not prostitution, it is sexually responsible behaviour and good
judgement in sex, so that people genuinely emancipate themselves from sexual
stupidities and oppression... but moral claptrap is a fat lot of use there,
and a bit of prostitution might sort out a lot more problems than the
ravings of some therapist. Communist officials themselves used prostitutes,
how do you feel about that Melvin ? Colin Powell visited prostitutes, how do
you feel about that, Melvin ?
What I said was that "the modern justification for imperialism is that all
resistance is useless, because breaking with imperialism results in a
civilisation which is worse, get it ?" and you don't get it, you start
waffling about something else.
Then you start dribbling about the "startling reality" of "the deadly
military force of American imperialism""and you ask "How can you not
understand this startling reality?" as if I don't understand it.
Well Melvin, you are the one that wants to shut me up and anybody outside
America who dares to speak out about American imperialism, presumably
because you feel only an American knows what is good for the imperialised.
And so you yourself become a bootlicker of US imperialism. Next thing you
are going to tell me that I don't like Americans, or some such nonsense !
Get off the grass Melvin, and have a look at the calendar.
Jurriaan
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