Re: Daru the Socialist, Daru the Democrat

["dms" <dmschanoes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Many, many messages ago, Lou asked everyone to make one last comment and end
this thread.  I have made no further comment on BTTHN since then,  and I
don't intend to now.

Nor do I defend the Kucinich romance.  At all.  But I think there are a
couple of critical points we must grasp and so far haven't.

The first point is that there is an election planned for 2004 and the
critical task should be apparent to all-- and that is a political
organization that uses the election to propel a class distinction between
itself and the bourgeoisie.  This means moving beyond, or away, from the
notion of the broad based movement uniting all in a single goal of  ending
the war in Iraq, or BTTHN, since in reality, no single goal will be achieved
separate and apart from advancing the class nature of the struggle
throughout the totality of the society.    This means a "party of our own,"
not Green, but of labor.

The second point is the "bedrock principle" of "self-determination of
nations."  What can that possibly mean regarding Iraq, since there is no
emerging "national" class capable of organizing production around "national"
goals?

There are remnants of the Baath structure, there is the stirring of the
pillaging rich,  there are tribes, and there are still workers, organized as
a class, confronting acutely the need of international capital to reduce the
social development, the cost of social reproduction to the Afghanistan
level.

So I argue that the challenge is not for "self-determination," but against
the decimation of capital, and we should push that forward and make our
"un-class-conscious" US masses see the reality of the struggle for what it
is.

Cue the charges of "sectarianism."