Re: We don't do body counts?

[Nicholas Siemensma <nsiemensma@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

War may have killed 10,000 civilians, researchers say

Simon Jeffery
Friday June 13, 2003
The Guardian

At least 5,000 civilians may have been killed during
the invasion of Iraq,
an independent research group has claimed. As more
evidence is collated, it
says, the figure could reach 10,000.

Iraq Body Count (IBC), a volunteer group of British
and US academics and
researchers, compiled statistics on civilian
casualties from media reports
and estimated that between 5,000 and 7,000 civilians
died in the conflict.

Its latest report compares those figures with 14 other
counts, most of them
taken in Iraq, which, it says, bear out its findings.

Researchers from several groups have visited hospitals
and mortuaries in
Iraq and interviewed relatives of the dead; some are
conducting surveys in
the main cities.

Three completed studies suggest that between 1,700 and
2,356 civilians died
in the battle for Baghdad alone.

John Sloboda, professor of psychology at Keele
University and an IBC report
author, said the studies in Iraq backed up his group's
figures. "One of the
things we have been criticised for is quoting
journalists who are quoting
other people. But what we are now finding is that
whenever the teams go into
Iraq and do a detailed check of the data we had
through the press, not only
is our data accurate but [it is] often on the low
side.

"The totality is now producing an unassailable sense
that there were a hell
of a lot of civilian deaths in Iraq."

A spokesman for the Ministry of Defence said he had
not seen anything to
substantiate the report's figures. "During the
conflict we took great pains
to minimise casualties among civilians. We targeted
[the] military. So it is
very difficult for us to give any guidance or credence
to a set of figures
that suggest there was x number of civilian
casualties."

IBC's total includes a figure of at least 3,240
civilian deaths published
this week by the Associated Press news agency, which
was based on a survey
of 60 Iraqi hospitals from March 20 to April 20, when
the fighting was
declining. But many other bodies were either buried
quickly in line with
Islamic custom or lost under rubble.

Prof Sloboda said there was nothing in principle to
stop a total count being
made using forensic science methods similar to those
used to calculate the
death toll from the September 11 attack: it was a
question of political will
and resources.

He said even an incomplete record of civilian deaths
was worth compiling, to
assist in paying reparations and in assessing the
claim before the war that
there would be few civilian casualties.

Lieutenant Colonel James Cassella, a US defence
department spokesman, said
the Pentagon had not counted civilian deaths because
its efforts had been
focused on defeating enemy forces rather than aiming
at civilians.

He said that under international law the US was not
liable to pay
compensation for "injuries or damage occurring during
lawful combat
operations".

The Iraqi authorities estimated that 2,278 civilians
died in the 1991 Gulf
war.

Read the report in full http://www.iraqbodycount.net




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