Re: Re: UN reformatted -- testing

["lvnadal" <lvnadal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

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From: "James Daly"

> There was a thread on the list started by Chris Brady about the time
> of the beginning of the invasion called "US Fascist-Think About the
> UN", in reaction to Richard Perle. It didn't get far, which surprised
> me. If Perle hates it that much it must be doing something right.
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What a header for a thread-- UN reformatted-- testing.

Rightwingers of various type for various reasons at various times have
attacked the UN.  Loathing of an institution does not in and of itself
validate the institution.  Remember when the extreme right used to hate the
budget deficit, federal intervention in schools, national police, etc?  Now
they don't, because it's all about power, who has it, what's needed to keep
it, and who prevented you from acting with a totally free hand.

Perle hates the Saudis, but that doesn't prevent him from doing business
with them.

Perle hates the UN and in the particular double think inaugurated with the
free market (one that holds property as democracy, poverty as prosperity,
invasion as liberation) he wants to use its own hesitancy to act, one way or
the other, as the proof of its own irrelevance.

I'm not so sure about Lenin's quote, as my fashion sense isn't what it used
to be.  But I do know the UN was created to prevent the advance of socialist
revolution after the collapse of the old empires.  And I do know that if any
organization wants to use the institution against the class controlling the
institution, then the attack has to be on structure, not on sentiment, or
sense of the assembly, or resolutions which have significance only in their
impotence.

Again, I would suggest to those who want the UN to act as a forum, that the
first task is to see if any of its members will support, demand its
restructuring, abolition of the security council, and moving the seat of the
organization out of the US to someplace more neutral, pacific, even.  Maybe
Hiroshima, or Havana,  Algiers,  Istanbul, Moscow, someplace other than the
US-UK axis of belligerence.