Re: Rumsfeld's Rapid Deployment and Special

[Charles Jannuzi <b_rieux@xxxxxxxxx>]

>>JSOC is a cover organization and it does not
"study" anything.<<

This was hinted at in the material I posted. That
they are doing 'anti-terrorism' and 'rapid
responses to WMD' means they are hooked into the
gravy train, though.

>>I don't mean to be tiresome, and it wasn't all
THAT big an issue, but the Russian report didn't
simply interchange "forces" with "Group."  It
gave them a specific unit designation, 1st, 3rd,
5th, 10th... and Special Forces is organized into
these "Groups"... eg, my old units were 7th SFGA
and 3rd SFGA, that is, Special Forces Group
(Airborne).<<

It could be that the Russian report was referring
specifically to the CIA stuff or got them mixed
up. Going through all the organizations and
command structures that the US has, I could
easily see how it gets confused, because I don't
think the bureaucracy really makes sense to
anyone but the career officers and NCOs for whom
it finds slots to fill.

Actually, this topic is a BIG issue in this war.
It was all the grandstanding special forces and
operations types who were so glory bound in the
first place. Remember, at the level of the
national security state, it started as covert and
then special but overt operations for regime
change. This war didn't just spring up post-9-11,
though that is, in part, how it's been sold.

And idiots like Rumsfeld really do think these
guys can do superhuman things. They can't, and
they won't. Light infantry in a war zone is just
light infantry; I don't care how many languages
they speak or what color berets they wear.

But believing in this sort of star ship trooper
horseshit is a pattern that sucks America into
military morasses. Think JFK and Vietnam.

The last special forces debacle that I know of
was Somalia and their grandstanding danger ranger
cowboying crap got thousands of Somali civilians
killed. It might well be the same sort of thing
happend in Panama, too.

My point about current special operations is
that, well, I'm not really sure how they have
been assigned and attached to CentCom this time
around. Your memory of organizational structure
could be completely obsolete in terms of how all
these different types of forces are functioning
under CentCom in this war.

I saw an organizational chart for Afghanistan and
it was more complicated than semantic maps of all
of Nazi Germany and the Soviet Unions combined.
But one thing is for sure: CIA's SOG is working
closely with the DoD stuff (and look at that
article about Rumsfeld going behind the CIA's
back to get even more of his own DoD SOG-like
stuff going, it smacks of Nazi-era Germany).

And other things seem likely: that DoD people are
filling out CIA SOG; and that US and UK units are
working closer than they ever did outside of NATO
(and perhaps closer than in NATO).

C Jannuzi










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