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Forwarded from Julio Huato
Mine, you wrote:
This an insult on the members of the list who have involved in "actual"
political organizing at various points in their histories. I don't know
everybody here, but lou, jon flanders, craven, mark, etc. are such
examples to my knowledge. How long are we gonna listen to these shitty
lies and arrogant lenin baiting? or do we have to?
Are you out of your mind ? We are all friends here, you know, we all want
the same thing, we're just different people that is all. We are just testing
out a few things. If you had read what I said carefully, you would have
noticed I have nothing to do with "these shitty lies and arrogant Lening
baiting". What do you want me to do, come to New York and f**k you in the
ass ? You got to be kidding, you're just a Phd student. There's a whole
world out there beyond university. In the words of the estemable William van
Orville Quine, "the university is not the universe".
I will tell you something about "Leninism". Roundabout 1986, I helped
organise a unity conference in Christchurch, New Zealand, to organise
united leftwing opposition to the policies of the Fourth Labour Government
in New Zealand. What was the attitude of so-called "Leninist" parties ?
- the Socialist Action League: "you are sectarians and opportunists at the
same time, you're into a get rich quick scheme"
- the Communist Party of New Zealand: "we're the only vanguard party here"
- the Workers Communist League: "who are you - you don't have any standing
in the movement"
- the Spartacist League of Australia: "Mandel sold out in Afghanistan (let's
drink a bottle of wishky on the stairs)"
Now these were all people who had studied Lenin, and they couldn't even come
to grips with the political imperatives in their own country (barring the
Spartacists, who were always somewhere else) !!! That is how I lost my faith
in so-called "Leninism" forever.
Long live Lenin ! Down with the Leninist epigones !
Cheers
Jurriaan
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