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Gorojovsky and Mr. Proyect
Mr. Gorojovsky: I hope I had it right this time. If
not, I apologize. My system does not allow me to
answer and look at your message at the same time. In
any case, this will be brief. You assumed that I was
trying to polemicize with you. I was not.
I think you have a credibility gap about facts,
events, political analysis, etc and a tendency to
distort them to make them fit some kind of political
line.
Since that "line" barely exist in the real world of
the class struggle, is little to polemize about. Your
party does not exist for all practical purposes of the
class struggle.
You did assume in your first post that the
demonstrators at the bridge were partly responsible
for what happened.
Now you try to defend Duhalde as an honest kind of guy
who would like to find the truth and the Moyano wing
of the bureacracy as some kind of alternative. You
are also trying to somehow defend the cops saying that
they did not plan the killings, since if they would
have, they wouldn't have left witnesses photograph
them.
This, of course, leaves out of the question of the
stupidity of the cops and the adrenaline that runs
through their veins when they are killing somebody.
That explains the witnesses, not their alleged lack of
planning. You even fantazized about CIA operatives
and so on.
At the very end of your analysis - on this one and in
previous discussions - lies your confidence and hopes
in some kind of bourgeois restoration of "civil"
society in order to proceed with politics.
Call it Peronism, Duhaldism or whatever. You will
defend this confidence at the expense of attacking all
other leftists as sectarians and petite-bourgeois, etc
Well, my opinion is that the most sectarian of those
groups, the most disconnected with reality, have a
better grasp with what is going on in Argnetina than
you do.
As to Louis's assertion that a party is needed in
Argentina but one cannot be built for all the reasons
he gave, leaves us with nothing to do other than
intone lamentations of what is not going to happen.
Since I consider the question of the party primarily a
practical question, I will hold the mustard on that
one until Louis actually build something that we can
contrast with the existence of other political
formations. Meanwhile, people should either wait
until Louis decides that the conditions are mature for
his party to exist or work with the material forces
that exist in society as it is, with the shortcoming
they have and try to make the best out of the
situation.
By the way louis, as I have - according to you - to be
thrown in the same cell with that guy from Australia,
I think you should be thrown inside the same cell with
Nestor. You'll make a wonderful chain gang.
DA
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- Thread context:
- Re: The New Left and education (Australian context),
Rosie Williams Sun 30 Jun 2002, 11:44 GMT
- Interview with Duhalde / the theory of two evils,
Armand Diego Sun 30 Jun 2002, 09:09 GMT
- Cdes. Gorojovsky & Proyect,
Chris Brady Sun 30 Jun 2002, 08:33 GMT
- Miriam Daly,
Philip Ferguson Sun 30 Jun 2002, 07:32 GMT
- Gorojovsky and Mr. Proyect,
Armand Diego Sun 30 Jun 2002, 04:15 GMT
- Bob Gould's comments on Aussie Left,
Shane Hopkinson Sun 30 Jun 2002, 02:09 GMT
- Re: Peter Boyle's hare - Bob Gould's analysis,
Shane Hopkinson Sun 30 Jun 2002, 01:38 GMT
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