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Nestor's class collaboration
Nestor wrote:
> I was just reading my mail when an idea crossed through my brain like
> lightning.
>
> Xxxx's positions are the best help that could be given not only to
> imperialists
> but also to his so-hated Argentinean bourgeoisie.
>
> Imagine what would have the Argentinean workers thought and felt if they had
> seen the British working class moving massively to the streets to reject
> Thatcher's war. Just imagine.
>
> It would have been a giant's step ahead from bourgeois nationalist
> consciousness, because they would have felt in their bones what does
> "internationalism" mean when it is not put to the service of imperialist
> bourgeoisies.
>
> So that, Xxxx, please reconsider your support to the Argentinean bourgeoisie.
Nestor, please, your name-calling is becoming more and more laughable. It is
you who refused to take an independent class position and support
suppressing working class demands for the sake of supporting bourgeois
nationalist demands. Please go back to your study and rub your Galtieri bust
for good luck.
Elswhere, Nestor wrote:
> Argentina does not benefit, since the local industries who benefit send their
> profits to the First World. As to the small sector of nationally owned
> industries, though they benefit a little, at the same time the workers are
> underpaid and thus send their own labour value abroad. To make things worse,
> Argentina is still dependent on its exports of agricultural products (exports
> which are managed ruthlessly by the great dealers in the world market and
> closed off their "natural" markets from time to time) and oil.
Workers are underpaid everywhere, Nestor, that's the whole point of
extracting surplus value but they are significantly better paid in Argentina
than, say, in Malaysia or Nigeria so Argentina's bourgeois economy does
benefit from capitalist exploitation of non-industrialised, underdeveloped
nations.
and elsewhere:
>
>
> Have ever Canadians or Australians made the claim that they are the direct
> continuation of the populations they came to replace? Because Argentineans
> and
> Uruguayans do. If you don't understand this, you don't understand much.
>
> "Race" is not as important an issue as "historic consciousness" in the River
> Plate. Will expand further.
Or, in other words, popular myths are more important than fact.
Andy
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- Thread context:
- CWI and Malvinas War,
Philip Ferguson Thu 25 Oct 2001, 10:54 GMT
- Xxxx's slander (was: Re: Nestor's class collaboration),
Lou Paulsen Thu 25 Oct 2001, 10:34 GMT
- Stalin and the national question,
Xxxx Xxxxxx Thu 25 Oct 2001, 07:56 GMT
- Nestor's class collaboration,
Xxxx Xxxxxx Thu 25 Oct 2001, 07:38 GMT
- (Eng Trans) Re: (Spa) Cavallo's currency board already broken by reality,
Lou Paulsen Thu 25 Oct 2001, 07:34 GMT
- (Spa) The CGT exerts pressure on Peronist representatives...,
Gorojovsky Thu 25 Oct 2001, 04:15 GMT
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