Re: Malvinas answers

[Xxxx Xxxxxx <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On 10/24/01 6:49 PM,marxism-digestowner-marxism-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
wrote:

> Xxxx tells me to
>
>> Read the book "Lenin on the Jewish Question"
>
>
> There is a right way and a wrong way to cite references. This way is the
> wrong way:  I've never seen the book 'Lenin on the Jewish Question'. In
> general this is a problem for the left: everyone has their own favourite
> version of collections of articles by Marx, Engels, Lenin, Trotsky produced
> by this or that publishing house on this or that general subject. What you
> need to do is cite the title of the article and the date it was written,
> and, if possible, a Collected Works reference as well. In this way people
> can refer to the articles themselves in the particular collections to which
> they have access. This is not a comment specifically addressed to Andy but
> to anyone who cites material in this way.
>
>
> But I'm fascinated by the possibility that Lenin produced a list of
> objective criteria by which a nation can be defined, and that he talked
> about 'degrees of self-determination',

"degrees of self-determination" may have been a bad choice of words on my
part. What I'm generally referring to is  Stalin's essay "Marxism and the
National Question" which Lenin endorsed (some say Lenin actually wrote it -
don't know what evidence there is for that) and that essay does, as I
recall, set out various criteria before a people can be considered a nation.
The Jews were not considered a nation because they lacked territorial
concentration but Lenin agreed Jews had certain national rights such as the
right to their own language, to have their own educational system, to have
some degree of community governance etc. As I recall, the collection of
Lenin's writings on the Jewish question that International Books put out a
few years ago has pieces that outline this while also echoing Stalin's line
regarding the need for territorial concentration before one could be
considered a nation - Biro-Bidzhan was a rather clumsy attempt to solve this
problem as were earlier proposals to settle Jews in the Crimea.

Andy


 since I've never come across material
> of this type. So Andy I ask you: please, titles of articles and dates for
> the material you refer to (and if you can supply some sample quotes too that
> would be helpful). Thanks.
>
> Agur,
>
> Ed


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