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Re: CPC, freedom of expression ( Re: Argentina: the "plan" of Cavallo has been unleashed)
- To: marxism@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Subject: Re: CPC, freedom of expression ( Re: Argentina: the "plan" of Cavallo has been unleashed)
- From: Adam Levenstein <cleon42@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 14:50:28 -0700 (PDT)
--- "Henry C.K. Liu" <hliu@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > Revolutionaries can't afford *not* to doubt. If
> you
> > stop doubting, you stop being able to objectively
> > critique - and correct - your mistakes.
>
> The moments of doubt is before the beginning of the
> revolution. A
> revolution begins not as a mob uprising but must
> have a political
> agenda, developed by a political party with a
> central committee which
> works out all the doubts and options and develops a
> political line and
> strategy around which all party members rally and
> support.
OK, so before the revolution, the entire plan is layed
out? As in, after the revolution, nothing will change
for the next few millenia?
I repeat - bullshit.
I don't care how hammered out your line is, how set
you are, how much you have planned - shit happens.
Things change. If anything is an anarchist view, it's
the ridiculous idea that after the revolution, no
further governing is needed - because everything's
already hammered out.
The whole idea that a revolutionary party is needed to
guide the revolution along is central to Bolshevik
thinking. And as the revolution progresses, errors can
be (and are) made.
> Political party are of course error prone. But it
> is not for every
> individual to decide personally. In communist
> parties, different
> processes have been developed to handle debates and
> discussions.
But if they're not free to question, to doubt, such
"processes" are irrelevant. Because questioning - and
thus correcting - is not permitted.
> >
> > If that comes with people thinking reactionary
> > thoughts, so be it - that's called a "necessary
> evil."
> > Stopping such thoughts is impractical anyway, and
> > trying to stop them leads to a society of
> witchunts.
> >
> > How can the people effectively administer society
> if
> > they do not have the freedom to criticize
> themselves
> > and their peers?
>
> That is an anarchist view.
No, it's a legitimate question - one I notice you
refuse to answer. How are people supposed to correct
errors if they're not permitted to notice them?
=====
Adam Levenstein cleon42@xxxxxxxxx
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- Thread context:
- Re: CPC, freedom of expression ( Re: Argentina: the "plan" of Cavallo has been unleashed), (continued)
- Re: CPC, freedom of expression ( Re: Argentina: the "plan" of Cavallo has been unleashed),
Johannes Schneider Tue 17 Jul 2001, 17:14 GMT
- Re: CPC, freedom of expression ( Re: Argentina: the "plan" of Cavallo has been unleashed),
Henry C.K. Liu Tue 17 Jul 2001, 18:01 GMT
- Re: CPC, freedom of expression ( Re: Argentina: the "plan" of Cavallo has been unleashed),
Adam Levenstein Tue 17 Jul 2001, 18:24 GMT
- Re: CPC, freedom of expression ( Re: Argentina: the "plan" of Cavallo has been unleashed),
Henry C.K. Liu Tue 17 Jul 2001, 21:46 GMT
- Re: CPC, freedom of expression ( Re: Argentina: the "plan" of Cavallo has been unleashed),
Adam Levenstein Tue 17 Jul 2001, 21:58 GMT
- Re: CPC, freedom of expression ( Re: Argentina: the "plan" of Cavallo has been unleashed),
Johannes Schneider Tue 17 Jul 2001, 22:09 GMT
RE: Argentina: the "plan" of Cavallo has been unleashed,
Mark Jones Thu 12 Jul 2001, 21:13 GMT
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