Marxism
mailing list archive
[ Other Periods
| Other mailing lists
| Search
]
Date:
[ Previous
| Next
]
Thread:
[ Previous
| Next
]
Index:
[ Author
| Date
| Thread
]
Re: Avoid Sectarianism & Opportunism (was Re: victimology)
- Subject: Re: Avoid Sectarianism & Opportunism (was Re: victimology)
- From: Yoshie Furuhashi <furuhashi.1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 15:38:36 -0800
>Yoshie Furuhashi wrote:
>
>>>In general I have a strong belief that the most deeply felt need of both
>>>men and women of Mexico and Central America is to grow up and flourish in
>>>their home villages.
>>
>>Capitalism & imperialism do not allow them to, and more women than
>>ever have & will be drawn into wage labor. We need to organize
>>wherever the masses find themselves. Migration may bring new
>>miseries to migrant workers, whether they end up in Northern Mexico
>>or the USA, but Marxists do not oppose migration for this reason.
>>Marxists' job is to do what we can to bring about socialism, not to
>>foster impossible nostalgia or to lecture women to go back to their
>>home villages & flourish there. The masses _cannot_ flourish under
>>capitalism whether they remain in their hometowns or migrate to big
>>cities.
>
>Some listers may remember Zeynep Toufeckioglu, who briefly shone on
>the early Marxism lists and then disappeared back into Istanbul.
>Zeynep spent a couple of months traveling around Chiapas a few years
>ago. When she passed through New York on her return, she told me
>that the women of Chiapas were not permitted to speak to men unless
>spoken to. Does that qualify as flourishing in their home villages?
>
>Doug
Not only are rural women oppressed by old patriarchal ways under
capitalism (and capitalism & imperialism make use of reactionary
patriarchal oppression -- e.g., aiding the Afghan mujahideens in the
fight against the old Soviet Union); the special problem of the
oppression of women by rural patriarchy will _not_ automatically
disappear if and when we make a transition to socialism. Observe the
oppression of Albanian women in Kosovo, trapped in the old ways of
rural patriarchy, before, during, & after Yugoslav market socialism.
Urban women, be they Albanian or of other nationalities, fared much
better than rural women under Yugo socialism, though they were not
fully emancipated either.
Yoshie
- Thread context:
- Re: Avoid Sectarianism & Opportunism (was Re: victimology), (continued)
- Re: Avoid Sectarianism & Opportunism (was Re: victimology),
Yoshie Furuhashi Tue 12 Dec 2000, 22:03 GMT
- Re: Avoid Sectarianism & Opportunism (was Re: victimology),
Louis Proyect Tue 12 Dec 2000, 22:30 GMT
- Re: Avoid Sectarianism & Opportunism (was Re: victimology),
Yoshie Furuhashi Tue 12 Dec 2000, 23:31 GMT
- Re: Avoid Sectarianism & Opportunism (was Re: victimology),
Doug Henwood Tue 12 Dec 2000, 23:34 GMT
- Re: Avoid Sectarianism & Opportunism (was Re: victimology),
Yoshie Furuhashi Tue 12 Dec 2000, 23:38 GMT
- Re: Avoid Sectarianism & Opportunism (was Re: victimology),
Louis Proyect Wed 13 Dec 2000, 00:22 GMT
- Re: Avoid Sectarianism & Opportunism (was Re: victimology),
Yoshie Furuhashi Wed 13 Dec 2000, 00:37 GMT
- Re: Avoid Sectarianism & Opportunism (was Re: victimology),
Xxxx Xxxxx Xxxxxx Wed 13 Dec 2000, 01:28 GMT
- Re: Avoid Sectarianism & Opportunism (was Re: victimology),
Michael Hoover Wed 13 Dec 2000, 21:46 GMT
[ Other Periods
| Other mailing lists
| Search
]