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["Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky" <Gorojovsky@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

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el 24 Sep 00, a las 9:51, Gary MacLennan dijo:

>
> Let me be clear that I am not advancing a theory of the uniqueness of
> the Irish experience. I am rather pointing out a historical continuity
> in British policy in Ireland.  Cromwell has to be understood in terms
> of his role within a continuity which established the domination and
> exploitation of Ireland by the British. The Irish have long regarded
> Cromwell as one of the most brutal proponents of the British
> overlordism.  Now revisionists have popped up to tell us that he was
> not all that bad really.  The historical conjuncture should provide
> Marxists with the basis of both an understanding and a critique of
> such revisionism.
>

Marx himself changed 180 degrees his views on Ireland. During the 40s
he believed that the Irish would be liberated by English workers. At
the end of his life he was convinced that while the Irish did not set
themselves free of the English yoke, the English working class would
not be free.

The problem is, social reformers and even revolutionaries in core
countries use to be murderous imperialists when abroad.  Examples
abound, and in the end all of this has to do with accumulation...



Néstor Miguel Gorojovsky
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