Re: SEXPLOITATION? What is at stake in Cuba?

[Yoshie Furuhashi <furuhashi.1@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Xxxx:

>Although we both agree on the existence of  sex workers as certain
>classes of women, you imply sex work is beneficial for women, I
>think it is not,
>in the overall analysis. That is the plain difference.

Working-class women have to engage in some kind of wage labor, so we
need to look at & improve conditions of work, to the extent we can
even under capitalism.  Otherwise, why oppose sweatshops?  Why
support strikes by trade unions?

>So, they are not exploited as long as they are satified with
>whipping men! What a
>kind of class analysis is that once you strip off the exploitation
>dimension from
>the class dimension?

All forms of wage labor involve exploitation, not just sex work.

>So, you are saying all women face physical insecurity, angry lovers
>and rape in
>the same degree with others, and that sex workers are no
>exceptional. This sounds
>like radical feminism as far as I can tell. This also contradicts
>your argument
>when you say "Unlike you, I think that testimonies of sex >workers & ex-sex
>workers reveal that the working conditions of >prostitutes really depend upon
>*class* & other determinants.

Not all women get raped, but statistically chances are that you are
more likely to be raped by men in your lives (kins, acquaintances,
etc.) than by strangers.  The same goes for assault, homicide, etc.

>again, unsubstantiated sex work idealism and lefty libertarianism,
>sorry! If sex
>work/industry is a capitalist thing (historically speaking as well), it is
>logically incorrect to talk about sex work under socialism.

Can you make a distinction between sexual service as *work* and
sexual service as *wage labor*?  Wage labor gets abolished with
capitalism, but not all forms of work will cease to exist under
socialism.

You see how sex is regarded among socialists when you notice that no
one seems to argue passionately that the police, weapons designers,
professional soldiers, atomic workers, pachinko parlor workers, etc.
won't have to exist _under worldwide communism_, but there are people
who fervently argue that sex workers shouldn't.

Yoshie