Reply to: "The Serb Issue: an honest query"

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In a message dated 09/11/2000 5:58:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
phantasmagorias@xxxxxxxxx writes:

<<Does jared Israel really have a case re his (amazing)
 claim that the Serbs committed NO atrocities, nor even
 any "brutalities" against the Kosovar Albanians,
 against the Croats, against anyone,  >>

Let me clarify, if I may.  My amazing claim is that Chomsky's statement that
the Serbian government has used a policy of terror is false.  That NO Serb
did bad things - how could I say that?  Undoubtedly the Jewish resistance in
Poland did bad things; ditto the Partisans in Yugoslavia.  That is not the
same as (Chomsky's words) "targeting civilians."  Do you see the difference?

Given that bad things ALWAYS happen in war, (i.e., that war is itself a
series of violent acts) there is still a distinction: one can target or not
target civilians (e.g., the Kuomintang targeted civilians; the Red Army did
not) - given that bad things inevitably happen, the key matter is policy.
The Islamists in Bosnia conducted an organized campaign of terror to a)
terrorize Serbs into fleeing by reminding them of the ferocious anti-Serb
terror in Bosnia during World War II and b) they were organized in part by
the Muhajeen who have made terror their style of war.  Similarly with the
Croatian fascist forces.

The Bosnian Serb  forces and their allies, the Bosnian  Muslim forces under
Abdic (who polled highest in the Bosnian elections) had the military
philosophy of the old Yugoslav Army - they were not trained by Afghan
terrorists, they did not believe in the recreation of the Ustashe State, they
did not have returned Croatian Ustashe in key positions, they were not
reinforced by a flood of German, French and other neo-Nazids (who poured into
the Croatian Army as volunteers).  And so on.

Here is one of the reports from  the German government concerning the finding
that civilians were not targeted in Kosovo by Yugoslav forces.  These
findings were publicized by the antiwar movement during the bombing - but
never by the German government. Prof. Chomsky was in possession of these
reports for over a year.  There are several more reports; all can be read at
http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/german/Germany.html

[Start of document] "Intelligence report from the Foreign Office, January 12,
1999 to the Administrative Court of Trier (Az: 514-516.80/32 426): "Even in
Kosovo an explicit political persecution linked to Albanian ethnicity is not
verifiable. The East of Kosovo is still not involved in armed conflict.
Public life in cities like Pristina, Urosevac, Gnjilan, etc. has, in the
entire conflict period, continued on a relatively normal basis." The "actions
of the security forces (were) not directed against the Kosovo-Albanians as an
ethnically defined group, but against the military opponent and its actual or
alleged supporters."  [End of document]


Regarding my amazing claim that the West has invented its anti-Serbian
charges, repeated unfortunatly by many on the left with no basis other than
newspaper reports - some of it may be true, but if so, we haven't found it
yet.  The claim is not so amazing if one igaines for a momnt that the
Imperial West PLANS things. That they conduct foreing policy with at least
the propensity for discussion and planning found in ordinary life, in the
conducting of business, in archiecture, in all areas of human effort - people
plan.  (Marx says that';s what makes us different from spiders - "German
Ideology")  Why wouldn't the Western elite plan when they find they have
finally gotten rid of their Soviet obstacle and want to remake the world more
profitably?

  The plan was to demonize the Serbs for very good reason: the Germans (and
therefore even the dumb Americans) learned many years ago that the Serbs are
a fucking pain in the ass when it comes to taking over the Balkans.  E.g., in
1941 (March) when the Yugoslav government made a deal with Hitler the Serbs
promptly overthrew it.  The puppet government Hitler set up in Serbia after
invading Yugoslavia (with Serbian opposition but Croatian complicity) refused
to hand over Jews.

The Serbs were picked to be demonized as part of the US strategy, which has
replaced anticommunsim: pick the local victim of oppression, the people who
tend to resist Imperial goals - and demonize them as fascists.  (Humanitarian
Intervention).  This is a strategy that came out of the Carnegie Endowment
for Peace.  One of the people who developed it, in the late 80s, was Albright:

[Start quotation] "Albright and the man named to the new "war crimes" post,
David Scheffer, were putting into practice new policy concepts they had
helped develop before Clinton was elected President, and before the war in
Bosnia-Herzegovina, when they had been part of what a privileged observer (3)
recently described as "a small foreign policy elite convened by the Carnegie
Endowment for International Peace to change U.S. foreign policy after the
Cold War."

"During the last years of the Bush administration, the Carnegie Endowment for
Peace was confronting the major question raised by the collapse of the Soviet
bloc: what new mission could save NATO, the necessary instrument for U.S.
leadership in Europe? And it found an answer: humanitarian intervention.
Reports by group members Albright, Richard Holbrooke and Leon Fuerth
"recommended a dramatic escalation of the use of military force to settle
other countries' domestic conflicts." (4)
"The Carnegie Endowment's 1992 report entitled "Changing Our Ways: America's
Role in the New World" called for "a new principle of international
relations: the destruction or displacement of groups of people within states
can justify international intervention". The U.S. was advised to "realign"
NATO and the OSCE to deal with these new security problems in Europe. [Which
they would invent! - my note, JI]

"Release of this report, accompanied by policy briefings of key Democrats and
media big shots, was timed to influence the Democratic presidential campaign.
Candidate Bill Clinton quickly took up the rhetoric, calling for Milosevic to
be tried for "crimes against humanity" and advocating military intervention
against the Serbs. However, it took several years to put this into practice.
At the Carnegie Endowment, as member of a study group including Al Gore's
foreign policy advisor Leon Fuerth, David Scheffer had co-authored (with
Morton Halperin) a book-length report on "Self-Determination in the New World
Order" which proposed military intervention as one of the ways of "responding
to international hot spots". A major question raised was when and to what end
the United States should become involved in a conflict between an established
state and a "self-determination" -- i.e. a secessionist -- movement. Clearly,
the question was not to be submitted to the United Nations. "The United
States should seek to build a consensus within regional and international
organizations for its position, but should not sacrifice its own judgment and
principles if such a consensus fails to materialize"(5). [End quotation]

This is from Diana Johnstones "HUMANITARIAN WAR:
MAKING THE CRIME FIT THE PUNISHMENT"

Read it at emperors-clothes.com/articles/Johnstone/crime.htm

Best regards,
jared Israel