The issue isn't socialism, it's opposing racist lies used to sell colonial war!

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Tony AAabdo writes:

<<  Jared states that no defense of
 Yugoslav self-determination is possible if Milosevic is labeled a
 monster.     Therefore, Jared wants to deny that Milosevic has ever done
 anything other than defend the socialist patria. >>

Aabdo, why do you persist in misportraying what I am saying?

Whether Milosevich has defended the socialist patria or not the key issue.
The US and Germany (in cooperation and competition) are attempting to remake
most of the world into the worst colonial prison.  Yugoslavia is one of the
key, if not THE key, focuses of resistance.  To facilitate the attack on
Yugoslavia they demonize the Serbian people and their leader.  If this
demonization were accurate it would be a terrible tragedy.  Fortunately, it
is a lie.

The question of what kind of socialist Milosevich is is a question to be
resolved by the Yugoslav people.  But the attack made on him by the Western
media  IS THAT HE IS A WAR CRIMINAL.  Sorry for the caps, but now perhaps you
will get it.  WAR CRIMINAL.  He and 'his' army.

Aabdo says "Jared is a Marxist",

Am I a Marxist? I'm with Marx on that one.

I did not consult Marx to discover that this is a lie.  I read tons of
Western newspaper articles (I read the stuff 5-6 hours a day, have been doing
it for a couple of years; before that I read about Yugoslavia, but less) and
benefit from the privilege (!!) of being in contact with all sorts of people
who know this situation intimately. The Website I started at Lou's suggestion
has become a focus of resistance and is fed information from all over.  What
an honor.

Based on what I have learned I know the Western media is lying.  It is
because the media is lying that I want to build an antiwar movement - not
because of my politics, whatever they are.  I was retired from politics.
Bitter. But still I couldn't help following what was being done to Yugoslavia
from 1990 to 1998. I knew from the newspapers that the West was slandering
the Serbs.  In October of '98 it got to be too much for me to take.  I hate
these racist liars, these slanderers of their colonial prey.  They slander
black people in the US.  They mock black men, they try to crush their
spirit..  All around the world they slander the people they screw.  They
slander the Irish, they slander women who have the audacity to think and
stand up to them. They slander Koreans. They slander the Serbs, the Black men
of the Balkans.

Chomsky says, in his writings, and his associates like Shalom and others
repeat it, "Milosevic is a thug and that Serbs have done terrible things."
(That's from a Chomsky associate)

They pump the toxin of this lie into the blood of the left: that the Serbs
are monsters.  Not that they are anti-socialist but that they are Nazis.

I have criticized Chomsky and the Z people NOT because they are anarchist.  I
work closely with some people from antiwar.com and they are libertarians(! )
I work with intensely religious people.  I'm an atheist.  So what?  When you
organize a union (a process with which I have had some experience) you sure
don't make certain politics a prerequisite.  I work closely with a union
rebel who "doesn't believe (!) in evolution".  So what?

Chomsky and Z have staked out a position that is, objectively, NATO's
position within the antiwar movement. Even though some may put it forward
with good intentions, it is STILL objectively NATO's position for those who
need to hear criticisms of NATO in order to ALSO listen to attacks on NATO's
victims.

These attacks are lies which curb the passion of opposition.  All NATO needs
is a dispirited left that will not fight against war, that  will not go out
to the people because it believes the victims are almost as bad as the
aggressors. I urge everyone to ask yourself - what are you doing to expose
these lies to ordinary people?  Emperor's Clothes has 300 articles, many of
which are quite useful.  Take them, rewrite them, steal them -  make this
information the property of ordinary people.

That union rebel who "doesn't believe in evolution" and who used to refuse to
hear a harsh word about Clinton has been reading www.tenc.net ( Emperor's
Clothes) and now she says: "The only reason working people tolerate these
wars is they don't know the facts."

The " Racak massacre" is a lie.  The "Serbian policy of targeting civilians"
(Chomsky's phrase) is a lie.  The notion that "bombing increased the level of
Serbian atrocities" (Chomsky, Zinn, Shalom etc.) is a lie.  It's all there in
Emperor's clothes. (www.tenc.net)   Use the search engine.  Check out
articles by title or author. We're going to reorganize the site to make it
more useful - but it's there.  This isn't my work, it's the work of 50 people
around the world.  Some of this knowledge was gained by them in heroic
resistance.

You know, when the US and Germany launched the first stage of their  campaign
against Yugoslavia in 1986-91, the Serbs were mainly fooled about US
intentions.  They have learned the hard way.  Their resistance has changed
the entire world situation - two years ago, the US elite had won.  But not
today. Not anymore.

Jared



Jared